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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

partypoker - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 176.07 BB (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 20.68, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 12,981)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 23.77, PFR: 18.05, 3Bet Preflop: 5.92, Hands: 1,124)
Hero (BB): 193.59 BB
UTG: 41 BB (VPIP: 24.67, PFR: 21.63, 3Bet Preflop: 8.88, Hands: 3,118)
MP: 111.08 BB (VPIP: 19.23, PFR: 13.97, 3Bet Preflop: 6.17, Hands: 10,628)
CO: 130.25 BB (VPIP: 23.46, PFR: 18.88, 3Bet Preflop: 6.17, Hands: 6,284)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♠ 2♠

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, BTN calls 6.5 BB

Flop: (18.5 BB, 2 players) A♠ 9♣ 3♣
Hero bets 5.86 BB, fold

Spoiler

Hero wins 23.44 BB

he has a read on me that i cbet sometimes 33% with medium kicker, and was spewing once vs that, so started folding lately. Now when i cbet so small, if i want to be balanced I can use only few bluffs which means that i am very bluff heavy. so is it ok to cbet vs him all bdfd hands, and to check total air which I can delaye cbet 33% pot (the point of delayed cbet is that I dont want that he notices that I cbet too often so small)? he saw me also many times checking e.g. top pairs and then betting small turn


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Originally posted by GingerKid
. Now when i cbet so small, if i want to be balanced I can use only few bluffs which means that i am very bluff heavy.

value-heavy?

Sorry....not following your dialogue.

What's your default 3b range BB vs BTN?


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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

I 3bet 15% polarized. Flop i wanted to say that i use same cbet range on flop vs him with 33% pot bet as when i standard size cbet, meaning that i am bluff heavy when i cbet 33%. So question is if it is ok to cbet standard range, and be a bit bluff heavy vs him so that he doesnt notice i am bluffing too often, or to bluff all hands vs him because he still defends like when i was cbetting standard size (he has static range didnt adapt to size).


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

This is getting complicated pretty fast

How do you know you are bluff heavy? Are you saying this because we imagine a smaller sizing to need a greater proportion of value-hands?

We don't know what an appropriate amount of bluffs is until we've aggregated potential sizings on turn and river + we are deep here. If our plan involved large bets on later streets we can get away with more bluffs in our flop range even if we use a smaller sizing.

Any presuming your question is an exploitative one, then obviously it can be fine, it just depends on the villain. If he's not adjusting and we are bluffing for cheaper then it may even be a stronger line.


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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

How do you know you are bluff heavy? Are you saying this because we imagine a smaller sizing to need a greater proportion of value-hands?

Exactly. I can though still use big sizes on turn and shove river and achive similar ratio as by using standard sizes.
Vs raise I am more vulnerable, because he can min raise me, and he gets great prize for it, meaning that I should defend very wide vs it which is not posssible if in cbet range I have many hands as this one having little equity. But, since he gives me great pot odds with small raise, if he wants to be balanced he can also use very few bluffs in such range and he doesnt have so many value hands to raise, so he should raise very rarely. If he would be bluff heavy, then i can also be bluff heavy with 3bet.

So since he is a reg (but not great one, I think he doesnt understand much of theory when his fold to cbet is 48% in 2 bet pot), I expect him to adjust after some time, but I want to reduce the chances that he notices that I am bluff heavy, so I am observing what can he do vs my strategy, and how can I readapt.


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Originally posted by GingerKid
I expect him to adjust after some time, but I want to reduce the chances that he notices that I am bluff heavy, so I am observing what can he do vs my strategy, and how can I readapt.

There are two ways of looking at this.

We can either not overdo it and hope the game remains in a state of static imbalance.

Or we can just go way over the top, force a bad adjustment from our opponent and then counter adjust. Imo option 1 is easier, option 2 is more profitable.


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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

Imo i cant make option 1 at all due to my geediness, but i guess option 2 will work fine.

Another topic. I was exploiting lately all regs by overbetting blank turns 1.2x (with GS mostly) and it worked fantastic for like 20k hands. In last 2 sessions i realized somehow everybody adapted and started calling light. Obvious counter adaption is to overbet TPGK, but still i ferl like having tone of FE is much more +EV (they will likely not call super light when they see value bets, but will also not overfold so much). So i was thinking maybe it is the best to change casino where people dont know me? I noticed my maniac style works best vs unknown regs.


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Yeah, this exactly why you see professional players attempting to play under unknown screenames.

At lower limits it's not a big deal if everyone knows who you are because they are not good enough to make adjustments. The higher in limits we go ---> we could be breakeven against a certain reg when we both have reads - but if we switch our screename and have reads on him, we can be into a goldmine for a period of time.

So you play on party. There are two skins on this network. You could create on the other skin and retain all your current reads/stats on the playerpool.

This is just a hypothetical statement, I'm obviously not recommending you play on a non tracked site ;) ;)


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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

Hahaha. Yeah i can do that. Allready have account on wpt and party.
Thanks for advice


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

No probs gl. I also hear some RB guys have the unofficial ability to have accounts deleted and new ones opened.


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