75$R QQ vs donk on very connected board

that deep i just shove on flop

Hi,

Hi can always lead some overcards+gutshots or complete air. You have a lot more overcards which have to fold, so if he has decent draw then he would rather take his fold equity on the flop.
Since there are enough bad turn cards then I would also just shove flop. You´re not folding on blank turns, you sometimes get fold hands that has decent equity and if he should lead 8x hands, then you get money all-in before some scary cards come.

best regards,

Hi all,

Don't fold turn. I see enough random gutshots and low equity stuff so I'm slowplaying flop. I think you stack most of his pairs anyway on later streets.

I would totally agree with you guys if the pot was heads up. What makes me so hesitant, is that my minraise with my stack from utg+1 looks very very strong. Then the flat from MP2 looks also very strong, unless he is a fish. So he is donking into 2 players which have a really strong range. So unless he is planing to stack off against me, and fold to MP2 shove, I am not sure I would put him on such a weak range.

I would never fold on the flop. I think he can have JT, QT, KT, 98 hands in his range also. I think most of the 66-88 would be shoved preflop. Maybe the 87s is in the donk-range.
I think flop call, turn call is the best line here to keep the bluffs in his range.

@julito23: I agree entirely. But all the same we cannot fold this part of our range for this price.