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JJpp vs 3bet + 4bet pre

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OsCardozo
Joined: 29.05.2011

iPoker - €2 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: €265.05 (VPIP: 28.10, PFR: 20.14, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 442)
BTN: €386.46 (VPIP: 30.06, PFR: 19.80, 3Bet Preflop: 6.20, Hands: 7,418)
SB: €200.00 (VPIP: 23.26, PFR: 17.78, 3Bet Preflop: 6.32, Hands: 9,255)
BB: €58.90 (VPIP: 54.72, PFR: 15.09, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 55)
UTG: €266.40 (VPIP: 52.55, PFR: 24.82, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 147)
Hero (MP): €494.40

SB posts SB €1.00, BB posts BB €2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €3.00) Hero has 3♥ 3♠ J♣ J♠

fold, Hero raises to €7.00, CO raises to €24.00, BTN raises to €82.00, fold, fold, fold, fold

BTN wins €116.00

hand i played yesterday, at a time I just sat tables (10-15 hands ago) and was raising / 3betting almost everything I got preflop cause I was given bombs preflop

CO and BU two decent regs, CO can have spot this, and can be 3betting looser than actually, because he sees I'm 3betting everything etc...

Préflop

opr std

against the 3bet + the 4bet, spewiest fold ever I think now

If there's a multiway allin preflop :
- I'm ~ahead in a scenario vs AAxx vs AAxx
- my hand doesn't run too bad if there's another 3way allin preflop scenario (except if they're all holding J and 3)

If i call, I'm giving CO good odds to call (and if he calls, it gives me good odds to for me to my doublesetmining)
... ye I could build reversed odds if he got some KKxx/QQxx/99TT and flop an horror like QJ2/KJ2 or 923 or whatever, but it's marginal and I think I shouldn't think about that

odds to call are ~ok.
I'm out of position, but on 4bet pot this has less importance

and we're deep, so I got more implied odds when I bink a set here than if we were 100bb deep.
I mean BU is going to got a SPR < 2 or <1 (if CO calls or not), so he would jam AAxx on most flops

super easy call flop i guess ?


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

I actually like the fold. Hoping for an AA vs AA scenario is just wishfull thinking. You have a very disconnected double pair, so you'd be basically setmining; and even if you hit your set you can get overset quite often as AA and KK hands abound here; not to mention even if you flop a set the board could still be bad; there's also the possibility of you flopping a FD.

While position doesn't matter as much, relative position does matter a LOT here, so i think folding is really the best play. Don't make cold 40bb's calls when you are not closing the action.

Regards,

Skod


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OsCardozo
Joined: 29.05.2011

Originally posted by Skodljivec

While position doesn't matter as much, relative position does matter a LOT here, so i think folding is really the best play. Don't make cold 40bb's calls when you are not closing the action.

Skod

you mean preflop, because CO behind can rereraise ?


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

No i mean postflop. You have to act before CO; so for example what do you do if you flop a FD? Do you push hoping the FD is live? If you had relative position you can usually stackoff if you see player 1 go AI on a FD board and and player 2 fold. But when you are player 2, it becomes really tough to play FD's.

Regards,

Skod


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