Q: Double your outs equity vs equilab

Hey chipsilicon,

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You actually haven't converted it to a percentage.

(8/47)+(8/46)*100 is the formula you need to convert to a percentage. This only gives you your odds for a straight. You also gain some equity for pairs, running two pairs or running trips.

So for the straight it is 0.1702 + 0.1739 = 0.3431 * 100 =34.31%. You gain your other 8% equity for the other hands that improve.

Hope this explains it

Laz

Hey Laz,

Yes! I think that does

So would I be right in saying I have a 17% chance on the turn ... and if that doesn't show another 17.3% chance on river?

Thanks, these calculations are frying me!

Hey chipsilicon,

Yes and a 34.3% of hitting over both streets. Bear in mind my calculations are only for the straight and don't include your other possible outs.

Whether it is an odds call will depend on whether you expect to have to call another bet (if you brick turn) and of course, implied odds. If you hit the nuts, you may be able to get his whole stack. So the size of his remaining stack is important as well.

Regards

Laz

Thanks, Laz!

I'm finally getting interested in maths!

are you putting it vs a random hand or vs AK or something? That's obviously going to effect the result

And if you put him on a range of AK+ equilab gives 30%... and if and Ax+ range included it gives 32%... the more you know.

So I guess you could say that if your opponent was willing to stack of on this kind of flop you always have about 31% and should be stacking off getting the usual 2 to 1 odds... of course most people would be insta-stacking off anyway so nothing much learned...

Originally posted by chipsilicon
Hey Laz,

Yes! I think that does

So would I be right in saying I have a 17% chance on the turn ... and if that doesn't show another 17.3% chance on river?

Thanks, these calculations are frying me!

Your rule of thumb in your first post of counting outs and multiplying by 2 is good approximation - for each street. So if you want to know rough odds of making straight by turn it is 8*2 = 16% and by river it is 8*2*2 (or 8*4) = 32%...

Originally posted by NothingIsForSho
And if you put him on a range of AK+ equilab gives 30%... and if and Ax+ range included it gives 32%... the more you know..

Thanks, I put it up against a fairly tight hand.

Definitely got to consider the Ace I guess and the odds of someone hitting a higher top pair.

So who would call that out of interest or raise to it based on a two on two and raise from the small blind who previously met your big blind to see the flop.