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Busted Draw vs block bet on the river

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henfen
Joined: 01.10.2008

Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, Rush, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $3.97 (39.7 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $14.83 (148.3 bb)
Hero (BTN): $10.75 (107.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 6 8
CO folds, Hero raises to $0.20, SB raises to $0.30, BB folds, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.70) T 3 7 (2 players)
SB bets $0.33, Hero calls $0.33

Turn: ($1.36) T (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero calls $1

River: ($3.36) Q (2 players)
SB bets $0.34, Hero raises to $9.12 and is all-in, SB calls $2.00

Results:

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$8.04 pot ($0.40 rake)
Final Board: T 3 7 T Q
SB showed K K and won $7.64 ($3.67 net)
Hero showed 6 8 and won $0.00 (-$3.97 net)

Villain is unknow at the time but Its pretty clear that he is not a good player, by his sizes and stack. What do you guys think of the shove on the river?
I play 77, 33 and some T exactly like that, and if I fold AK its a good result already right?
by the way I open to 2x from every place besides the SB because of the amount of short stackers in FTP.


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Hmm, before seeing the spoiler I was 100% sure he had JJ, but after Ive seen his hand I realised it is quite plausible that he has KK and AA played this way in his range.

I believe fishs get scared some times with over pairs and slow down a bit (ive seen that many times), but when you do give them some action they wont let it go that easy.

They hate to fold pots that they have put a lot of money already and they sure hate to fold KK, AA.

The raise on the river wouldnt be bad imo if it was against a less fishy player, but against this guy I doubt hes folding jacks, kings or aces in that spot,


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Even vs JJ we have to fold. No reason to make fancy and expensive moves here.


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As you said, if he plays all AK like that this will be profitable, as there is 16 combos of AK and only 18 combos of JJ, KK, AA.

However I do not think he does this line with AK frequently enough.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

I am folding on the flop due to his stack. Your implied odds are 10:1, which is not good enough to chase a GS, even with a backdoor, versus a fish obviously liking his hand. Note that even if you were guaranteed to stack him, the odds do not suffice. Then, IF you think you are practically guaranteed to stack him when you hit, why try a bluff?

It is a different story if there is a big chance he will fold at any point. Then you could float (hand still not good enough for chasing GS, so it is mostly a float) on the flop. But then, which kind of 40bb stack displays this betting kind of pattern preflop, flop and turn?


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Don't bluff the fish! :facepalm:


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