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River decision with TP, X/C, X/F, or B/F?

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kevin2001
Joined: 14.02.2009

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $27.49 (110 bb)
BB: $30.07 (120.3 bb)
UTG: $45.44 (181.8 bb)
MP: $27.97 (111.9 bb)
CO: $25.22 (100.9 bb)
BTN: $30.81 (123.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T K
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.90, BB calls $0.65

Flop: ($1.80) 9 J 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, BB calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.20) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.80, BB calls $2.80

River: ($9.80) K (2 players)
Hero??

Villain is an unknown. Raise PF was a misclick.

What is the best line OTR? thx!


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If I was in the hand I was allready giving up on turn. You are almost allways going to be called there too and against an unknown I don't want to build a big pot with nothing. (gutshot, not nothing, but still)
As played I might check/call river depending on villains size bet. I doubt that yoy can get called by worse on that river, but he might check back river.


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I am ok with betting flop but I would also be giving up OTT unless I have more info on villain.

As played I would x/c river depending on the size.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

On turn you have to make up your mind. Is it normal for you to bet 3 streets on a bluff with GS?


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kevin2001
Joined: 14.02.2009

i have a double gutshot FWIW..


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

This flop is a decent check call option actually, cbet's fine too
As played yeah bet turn

River's opponent dependent.

Vs unknown at NL25 I'd bet a little over half pot.


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Originally posted by kevin2001
i have a double gutshot FWIW..

Yea thats cool but theres a few things that you have to consider...

1. when you hit, will you be able to extract enough money being oop? what will you do, lead OTR? An 8 or Q OTR would be very scary, what would he pay you with?
2. his range has a lot of queens, so he might be blocking one of your outs.
3-when a Q or 8 of diamond comes OTR, will you be willing to play for stacks?
4- do you really have fold equity OTT? what called you OTF that folds now OTT with that deuce?


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kevin2001
Joined: 14.02.2009

Originally posted by Matorzinho

Originally posted by kevin2001
i have a double gutshot FWIW..

Yea thats cool but theres a few things that you have to consider...

1. when you hit, will you be able to extract enough money being oop? what will you do, lead OTR? An 8 or Q OTR would be very scary, what would he pay you with?
2. his range has a lot of queens, so he might be blocking one of your outs.
3-when a Q or 8 of diamond comes OTR, will you be willing to play for stacks?
4- do you really have fold equity OTT? what called you OTF that folds now OTT with that deuce?

So we should only have a value range when we cbet this turn?


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Originally posted by kevin2001

Originally posted by Matorzinho

Originally posted by kevin2001
i have a double gutshot FWIW..

Yea thats cool but theres a few things that you have to consider...

1. when you hit, will you be able to extract enough money being oop? what will you do, lead OTR? An 8 or Q OTR would be very scary, what would he pay you with?
2. his range has a lot of queens, so he might be blocking one of your outs.
3-when a Q or 8 of diamond comes OTR, will you be willing to play for stacks?
4- do you really have fold equity OTT? what called you OTF that folds now OTT with that deuce?

So we should only have a value range when we cbet this turn?

Or a better draw imo...

If the turn was an A however, I would consider firing once again.

OTR as played I would just x/c (depending on sizing)... you can also betsmall/fold, but I think x/c is better.

Theres no shame on cbetting and giving up, or even just giving up, a common mistake that I see a lot is that people think that they have to keep barreling a lot.

I recommend you the third video of the w34z3k walkthrough series...


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metza
Joined: 28.01.2012

OTT vs a check I expect him to bet stuff like JT, T9, 98, 97 so I actually think x/r to like $9 should in theory force him to fold pair + gutshot, the problem is there's a lot of station regs at nl25 who will just call these hands even when its clearly -EV, so I guess betting is better. If he just calls again on the turn, unimproved I am definitely bluffing river on the larger side as I think he usually has weak 1pair hands after calling twice.

As played I'd bet $4.50 on the river for value.


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xenomorphic
Joined: 29.12.2010

Bet turn bigger! what folds to that? I agree also bet river now because he has Jx and we block KJ, not so scared of diamonds.


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