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[SH] should I shove? BB vs SB 5bet

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SB RFI = 70%

SB 4bet range = 13%

fold to 3bet at sb= 71% (thats the reason of my gay sizing)

Very passive post flop (30% cbet oop), so I wanted to extract money pre flop against him.

BTN: $36.72 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 16, 3B: 7, AF: 2.5, Hands: 2494
SB: $27.45 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 22, 3B: 9, AF: 1.7, Hands: 2568
Hero (BB): $25.25 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 2.3, Hands: 38846
UTG: $25.31 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 7, AF: 3.5, Hands: 4330
MP: $25.35 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 20, 3B: 7, AF: 1.2, Hands: 3851
CO: $30.15 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 2.4, Hands: 13274

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with J :heart: J :club:
4 folds, SB raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $1.60, SB raises to $4.50, Hero raises to $25.25, SB calls $20.75

Flop: ($50.50) T :heart: 2 :spade: 2 :diamond: (2 players)

Turn: ($50.50) J :diamond: (2 players)

River: ($50.50) A :spade: (2 players)


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

Is this 4bet range or 4bet %? Whichever of the two it is, it seems quite high so stacking off is fine imo. Plus, your high 3bet and the fishy amount, he could 4bet you really light.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Vs that villain it is ok played.


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Originally posted by VaskataBuci
Is this 4bet range or 4bet %? Whichever of the two it is, it seems quite high so stacking off is fine imo. Plus, your high 3bet and the fishy amount, he could 4bet you really light.

Its 4bet range..

thanks for the feedback guys


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He might 4bet light but I doubt he stacks off light too. In best case scenario you are fliping with that guy.


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

that's a pretty large 4b. considering that his range is <10% anyway, shoving should be profitable, but depending on his reactions to 5b calling ip might be more profitable


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Originally posted by Tomaloc
that's a pretty large 4b. considering that his range is <10% anyway, shoving should be profitable, but depending on his reactions to 5b calling ip might be more profitable

what would you have done?

Hows your supernova chase going btw?


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

i guess i just shove because i'm lazy. :f_biggrin: assuming a >10% range if he's not 4b/calling hands like TT then he is folding too much to 5b, else he's stacking off wide enough.

as far as i'm concerned, i ran into a ton of technical problems this month with isp and computer so i'm way behind, which sucks. :f_biggrin: still should be doable if i move up back soon though.


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Originally posted by Tomaloc
i guess i just shove because i'm lazy. :f_biggrin: assuming a >10% range if he's not 4b/calling hands like TT then he is folding too much to 5b, else he's stacking off wide enough.

as far as i'm concerned, i ran into a ton of technical problems this month with isp and computer so i'm way behind, which sucks. :f_biggrin: still should be doable if i move up back soon though.

Keep it up man! I will stay tuned on your blog :)


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msnek
Joined: 01.10.2008

Op: how many hands u got on him ?

If the sample is big enough I think it won't be big mistake to 5bet shove it.

Btw: how much call and fold to 5bethe got +


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Originally posted by msnek
Op: how many hands u got on him ?

If the sample is big enough I think it won't be big mistake to 5bet shove it.

Btw: how much call and fold to 5bethe got +

its all on the post (2.5k hands), not enough sample to draw conclusions over his vs 5 bet tendencies.


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msnek
Joined: 01.10.2008

Oops sorry. I am so stupid. I overlooked it. Nevermind :)


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