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BB: $30.89 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 10, 3B: 6, AF: 4.7, Hands: 81
UTG: $10.10 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 7
MP: $15.07 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 16, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 31
CO: $16.27 - VPIP: 67, PFR: 33, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 3
Hero (BTN): $25.60 -
SB: $44.49 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 9, 3B: 3, AF: 2.7, Hands: 212

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with A :heart: Q :heart:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.10) Q :spade: 2 :heart: 5 :diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.55, BB raises to $2.09, Hero calls $1.54

Turn: ($5.28) 3 :diamond: (2 players)
BB bets $3.16, Hero calls $3.16

River: ($11.60) J :diamond: (2 players)
BB bets $25.14, Hero ?
What is his range on river?
I am confused, he will never play all sets like this, str8, 2pairs,
only QTd,Axd with str8 god shot?
But i have no idea why he will c/r Qx, he could only c/c i he think i cbet with air.
ok c/r Axd for bluff with gs or random Axd.

Help please :f_ugly:


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

x/r on that dry board is interesting. He does not need to do that with Qx, so I think it is sets or overpairs.


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

Looks like slowplayed AA preflop. His river overbet doesn't make much sense. Other possibility is on the flop he x/r with some gutshot plus backdoor and hit by the river. Without any notes I would fold the river. Until the river I would play it same way.


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That is interesting, if he knows i have wide range, why he would c/r with so strong hand.
I will fold all my air, but i will still bet on turn with air, weak Qx, and he still cold c/r OTT.
Maybe just to build the pot, if i have something.

Thank you. :)


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marcosmartinez
Joined: 03.07.2013

22, 55, A4, 64s, Q5s, some backdoor FDs too..

seems like a clear fold ofc, and i probably folding with no info to any size OTR, just hope that he checks river with some KQ/random bluff when i decide to call OTT


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I would keep an eye on this player and will try to make a note if I see what is he holding on showdown. Here it gets pretty expensive and we have to give up.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

He doesn't look like too loose or too aggressive player. Given how he played the flop, I would say he is more of a recreational player because no hand is good for raising this flop. Furthermore, he is doing this for value, most likelly. The value for him might sometimes be AQ, KQ, QJ, but we can't know that for sue. I think we can call the flop, but I would be inclined to fold. As played, I would fold the turn.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Villain is making a big raise on the flop. Do you think he willnot continue with his aggression on the turn? Ithink he will continue bettingand if we want to fold turn, we should not call flop. His line is very strange.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by nitrol
Villain is making a big raise on the flop. Do you think he willnot continue with his aggression on the turn? Ithink he will continue bettingand if we want to fold turn, we should not call flop. His line is very strange.

I think that sometimes we can assume that opponents might, for example, check/raise TP on the flop, but close the aggression with it on the turn. Thus, our hand might be good for calling the flop, but not good enough for calling the turn. Maybe it's not the case here. As you said, the sizing should tell us something. I, personally, would be inclined to fold the flop, as I said.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

The turn card does not change the picture. Why fold turn then?


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by nitrol
The turn card does not change the picture. Why fold turn then?

I wasn't refering to the card on the board. Sometimes doesn't even matter what it is. I just said that sometimes players (especially the bad ones, like villain here) conclude that they can check/raise TP for value, but when they get called, they stop aggression on the next street because they think "Ok, he called me, so I will slow down now. Maybe I don't have the best hand, at all", no matter what the card is.


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Krzych113
Joined: 10.01.2010

agree with Alleen86


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Zanardi1
Joined: 04.01.2010

Originally posted by brglez
I am confused, he will never play all sets like this, str8, 2pairs,
only QTd,Axd with str8 god shot?

Why not? The board is dry, so all he can have here are Q-10+, sets and overpairs. It smells to me like a set all the way.

Oh, and don't minraise in BvB situations, if you are in the SB. You give BB excellent pot odds to call you ATC.


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