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NiGhMa
Joined: 14.09.2012

Hi guys,

What's the best play OTF iyo as we're super deep ? knowing villain as AA 95% of the time

PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 562.8 BB (VPIP: 22.80, PFR: 18.34, 3Bet Preflop: 12.02, Hands: 663)
Hero (SB): 242.18 BB
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 19.16, PFR: 11.38, 3Bet Preflop: 3.53, Hands: 171)
UTG: 32.56 BB (VPIP: 56.25, PFR: 34.38, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 32)
MP: 322.76 BB (VPIP: 42.31, PFR: 28.85, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 54)
CO: 166.94 BB (VPIP: 29.79, PFR: 17.02, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 47)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♣ Q♣ 9♥ 8♥

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, MP raises to 31 BB, Hero calls 21 BB

Flop: (63 BB, 2 players) 6♣ 2♣ 7♥
Hero checks, MP bets 27.08 BB


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Basicly you are afraid only Aces with clubs or AA89 which you are blocking too. You have SPR of 3,4 so raise is definitely a good option. Aces without clubs has still 40% equity against you so that huge FE comes handy, especially as you are oop.

In position calling would be nice as you can then bluff any 4,8 and 9 as a semibluff when opponent checks. But oop that sucks and even if you hit 5, T or clubs you kinda have to check the turn.

I can use PokerJuice later to see the EV of a shove, my initial feelings are that it's +EV.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Ok, if his stackoff range is 7cc+, 67+, 45+ (preflop range AAxx) he is folding to your raise 76% of times. Against his stackoff range your avg equity is 36%. Total EV of a shove is $29,56. If we tighten up his fd part, it doesn't really change anything, shove is still over +$29.

Once villain cbets, SPR ott is 1,5. If we have information that our opponent doesn't want to fold his aces and stacks off on any turn, we can peel&shove any turn that is good against range of AAxx (about 67% of turns). If opponent always stacks off, our EV for peel&shove is $36.

Turn shove:

Spoiler

So depending of what we think villain does with bare Aces we can shove or peel&shove. Without any information, I would shove as the FE should be very high against bare Aces.


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WhiteWalker
Joined: 06.06.2015

If you pot flop you can pot turn and get folds from tonnes of hands. Raise folding isn't an option here but I agree that a raise is the best option here.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

With what hands would opponent call a pot raise otf and then fold on the turn?


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JonikoP
Joined: 15.05.2010

Not sure about 3-betting this hand from the SB 250 BBs deep. As played, GII on the flop.


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WhiteWalker
Joined: 06.06.2015

Originally posted by Kyyberi
With what hands would opponent call a pot raise otf and then fold on the turn?

3456, A345, 345 hands? Folding to an 8, 9, T? Although I imagine thet GII OTF but some passive opponents may call to avoid clubs here.


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Originally posted by WhiteWalker

Originally posted by Kyyberi
With what hands would opponent call a pot raise otf and then fold on the turn?

3456, A345, 345 hands? Folding to an 8, 9, T? Although I imagine thet GII OTF but some passive opponents may call to avoid clubs here.

You really think he 4bets those hands pre IP?


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WhiteWalker
Joined: 06.06.2015

Originally posted by Skodljivec

Originally posted by WhiteWalker

Originally posted by Kyyberi
With what hands would opponent call a pot raise otf and then fold on the turn?

3456, A345, 345 hands? Folding to an 8, 9, T? Although I imagine thet GII OTF but some passive opponents may call to avoid clubs here.

You really think he 4bets those hands pre IP?

Yeh fair, I don't think people are 4-betting hands like that. maybe middle double suited run downs but we block them. GII is deifnitely probably the move here I imagine.


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adragonro
Joined: 06.11.2010

My deep play is also very weak against more competent players.
Can u guys say something to the restal here? I don't like the hand either.

Kyyberi showed really well how we perform. I don't think most Vs will b/c AA with a backdoor FD nor pure AA, so the ch/r is fine.


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