Sory, boom player again, i don't use hud. His flop check confused me, as played i thout he eigder haves KK or JJ, or some random 3bet bluff, but i guess he wuld cbet on that board with 3bet bluffs.
http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/15600889_7A9C42AE11
I also expect alot of his bluffs to have an Ace. I believe it would be nothing wrong with 4betting and getting it in preflop. As played, I think we can check/call just one street and give up on further action. Ace on the river is somewhat unfortunate, but I still think we should check/fold.
No need to show the result, in order to avoid result-oriented opinions (dunno if that's possible posting boom hands)
4betting QQ+ is no longer profitable or I'd say more profitable than flat calling on SH tables. Really oddly played TPTK tho, especially as the preflop aggressor IP. I'd take an initiative ott and bet 40-50% psb and again otr unless another A occurs.
Calling the 3 bet is fine, imo.
About the way the hand is played - I see a tandency in playing TPTK like that. Giving enough rope to aggro opponents to bet themselves, and taking 2 streets of value on T and R.
I agree with calling preflop. For 4bet I need the reads in these positions.
As played, I can imagine that he can play some top pairs this way - for example some possible 3bet bluffs like A5s it´s reasonable to x/b. Also with AK or AQ he can decide to check back given his hand is not so vulnarable and probably don´t have 3 streets of value so often. Also A on the river is bad card for bluff I guess. So I think x/f R is OK.
About leading T which Berezovaya suggest - personally I don´t like it. What we want to achieve by this play?
It appears to be common play on that kinda board structures. You got raised by villain, he decided not to cbet otf, u x back, you assume he didnt catch the flop, u bet on the turn, he calls in order to catch your bluff, u bet on the river, it doesn't matter if improved, he certainly fold unless he's got at least a pair. Works most of the time.
https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=2055493#post2055493
Originally posted by Berezovaya
It appears to be common play on that kinda board structures. You got raised by villain, he decided not to cbet otf, u x back, you assume he didnt catch the flop, u bet on the turn, he calls in order to catch your bluff, u bet on the river, it doesn't matter if improved, he certainly fold unless he's got at least a pair. Works most of the time.https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=2055493#post2055493/blockquote >
But this is a strategy when we have a poor equity. Why would we bluff the turn and the river here? Which better hands will fold?
For instance, KK. It gives us also additional street of value ott even otr, it looks bluffy so he may want to call us down in order to catch potential bluffs. Nevertheless it's far better than calling all the streets or calling only one, there is a strong likelihood he'll use Ace as scary card.
To Berezovaya: of course it´s a good strategy in some situations but as Alleen86 mentioned I don´t see any reason to do it with our hand when better calling and worse folding
Originally posted by Berezovaya
For instance, KK. It gives us also additional street of value ott even otr, it looks bluffy so he may want to call us down in order to catch potential bluffs. Nevertheless it's far better than calling all the streets or calling only one, there is a strong likelihood he'll use Ace as scary card.
He will use A as scary card if he doesn't hold an A in his hand...
I think our hand there is more of a bluffcatcher than a bluff, and we probably have just one street of bluffcatching.
Originally posted by nitrol
He will use A as scary card if he doesn't hold an A in his hand...
Don't be so result-oriented.
