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QTs UTG vs BB

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hexAcove
Joined: 26.01.2009

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $5 (100 bb)
BB: $5.80 (116 bb) - 21/17/7.3/163h Call CBet: 100%(4), AF postflop: 3.3
Hero (UTG): $5.14 (102.8 bb)
MP: $3.53 (70.6 bb)
CO: $5.32 (106.4 bb)
BTN: $5 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q T
Hero raises to $0.15, 4 folds, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32) 5 2 Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.23, BB calls $0.23

Turn: ($0.78) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.56, BB raises to $1.65, Hero calls $1.09

River: ($4.08) J (2 players)
BB bets $3.77 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results:

Spoiler

$4.08 pot ($0.17 rake)
Final Board: 5 2 Q T J
BB mucked and won $3.91 ($1.88 net)
Hero mucked Q T and lost (-$2.03 net)

I hit top two pairs on the turn, how do I play them? Should I've shoved to villains x/r?
As played on turn, what do I do after that river card?
Thanks guys! :f_thumbsup:


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

There is a lot of draws and you have top 2, I think it is ok to shove OTT.
As played it is a fold OTR.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I think that you can play for stacks on turn.
On river, when straight and flush complete - it is a clear fold.


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hexAcove
Joined: 26.01.2009

Thanks! I messed up that turn :f_cry:. I thought that I should've shoved there...


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

Yeah just shove turn. Fold on that dreadful river.


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

There is a lot of draws and you have top 2, I think it is ok to shove OTT.
As played it is a fold OTR.

what range you put him on the turn? are really draws calling flop, raising turn, by a reg at NL5? weaker 2 pairs I do not see, so I see only TT


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Something like that?
MP2 58.79% 58.79% 0.00% QcTc
MP3 41.21% 41.21% 0.00% QQ, TT, 55, 22, AQs, KQs, QJs, AdKd, AdJd, AdTd, AQo


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As played, it's good. When the J♦: comes on the river, completing straight and flush draws, it's a good fold. But, you could have got it all in on the turn.


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crodady
Joined: 01.05.2009

what do you think he has on turn ? better or worst hand than yours?

if you think he has better hand(22,55) then why did you call turn bet ?
if you think he has worst hand then why didnt you protect from FD and SD?

so answer is simple.call on turn is worst play in this scenario.why?

Board: 5d2dQsTs
Equity Win Tie
MP2 78.71% 75.96% 2.75% { QcTc }
MP3 21.29% 18.54% 2.75% { 55, 22, Q2s+, KsJs, Jd9d, KJo, Q9o+, Q5o, J9o }

you had too much equity too not protect and value bet ( shove) with your monster hand on turn.
its monster hand(in this situation) yet its vulnerable when river brings some cards that would help with FD and SD
at top of that some river cards would kill action instantly.

:f_wink:


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

Originally posted by nitrol
Something like that?
MP2 58.79% 58.79% 0.00% QcTc
MP3 41.21% 41.21% 0.00% QQ, TT, 55, 22, AQs, KQs, QJs, AdKd, AdJd, AdTd, AQo

QQ interesting - I think it might c/r flop a lot
same with 55, 22

why would AQ, KQ, QJ c/r turn ? it just isolates against better range. I am never myself doing that with such hand.

If people do that, then of course QT is good enought to ship.

Equity Win Tie
MP2 58.53% 58.53% 0.00% QcTc
MP3 41.47% 41.47% 0.00% TT, AdKd, AdJd, AdTd

but if I reduce your range, so that bluffs are draws and only value TT, we are doing good also.

MP3 21.29% 18.54% 2.75% { 55, 22, Q2s+, KsJs, Jd9d, KJo, Q9o+, Q5o, J9o }

I think this range vs UTG is way too lose, unless we know this is a fish.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

QQ may not xr flop as board is not wet. Having fd is not a wet board.
AQ, KQ may xr turn cause draws were added.


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

Originally posted by crodady
what do you think he has on turn ? better or worst hand than yours?

You shouldn't think like that. It's not a question of whether he has a better or worse hand, it's the amount of combos of value hands versus bluffs/semi-bluffs in his range.


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