6-max - 77 on low board in 3bet pot HU

I do not agree that this flop misses him. On NL2 villains tend to 3 bet the small pairs from SB vs CO and BTN.

I ll give my best here.

1. If his range is depolarized, and I believe it is cause he is not flatting and playing really tight. It should look like 77+, A7s+, K9s+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KJo+, QJo (14% presented by equilab).
With this range, I think we, in villain shoes, can cbet all pairs for value/protection and overcards w flushdraw or bdfd.

2. With the stats of villain, I think we ll steal really wide, but when he 3bets us we cant continue w most of the hands. And we ll be overfolding a lot. Like making 4bets w AA-KK, AK and calling an eventual shove. Than calling w QQ-JJ in position. Thats extremely tight, but we are exploiting his folds pre already. And for a NL2 player that doesnt plays posflop well, I dont think calling 3bets wide is the way to go.
That said, w QQ-JJ we can call flop, evaluate his bet size ott and the turn card as well to call it again or not. Same thing on the river.

3. Sure, I think raising pairs is a good option, and I think its good for we to have a raising range on the flop to make villain's life a bit more difficult. If we just calls/folds, he ll have a really easy life against us. The fact is that I advocated an strategy really safe here, and I dont think we ll have those low pairs to make a raise with.

Answered questions, I think u are just having a good time here on this forum ♠_drink:
U are a black member, plays since 2007... no way u play at NL2 at all. And I m pretty sure u knows more about poker tham me hahaha

Do you know what his cbet % is as well as aggressive factor (AF)? Since this is a button vs SB battle, it's likely SB is 3betting a little wide, so I agree that this flop doesn't necessarily miss him. He could be cbetting with any flush draw, and pocket pair, and possibly any Ace (since he has a gutshot and 1 or 2 overcards). So in your position, I'm calling his cbet but a raise can't be too bad either. If you do raise and get re-raised, then it's a clear fold. If you get called, then re-evaluate the Turn to see if you should continue firing or slow down.

Originally posted by nitrol
I do not agree that this flop misses him. On NL2 villains tend to 3 bet the small pairs from SB vs CO and BTN.

I'm not sure if I agree with this. Ofc it is possible that villain 3bets lower PPs but I wouldn't say that it is a common tendency. That is just my experience.

If I was villain on this hand my cbetting range would depend on my villain. I guess I would often cbet 100% here because ppl at NL2 usually fold way too much to cbets and our second barrel would have a lot of fold equity too.

OTF we can continue with overpairs, draws, broadways.. OTT it depends much on villains bet size. You can continue with bigger overpairs and draws if you get odds.

If villain tends to double barrel a lot I think you can sometimes raise flop in this kind of situations. When you are OOP you can call flop donk turn also.

It is NL2, and mostof the players do not even know what depolarised mean. The fact that he makes just 2.5x from OOP means e can be more bluffy than strong.
I think villain can be 3 betting this: AA-JJ, AK, AQs for value, and 55-22, A5s-A2s, K9s-K5s, QTs-Q8s, J9s-J8s, T9s-T8s,97s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, 54s

On the flop he can be cbetting this:
MP2 38.61% 38.05% 0.56% 7s7c
MP3 61.39% 60.83% 0.56% JJ+, 55-22, AQs+, A5s-A2s, QcTc, Kc9c, Qc9c, Jc9c, Tc9c, Kc8c, Qc8c, Jc8c, Tc8c, 9c8c, Kc7c, 9c7c, 8c7c, Kc6c, 8c6c, AKo

Given this, we can call with the FDs and pairs.

As I said earlier, I do not agree that this flop misses him completely.

Of course they do. Its just the top range without gaps (different to what happens on a polarized range)

The range u gave to villain is way more sofisticated man...

Most NL2 players are far from the concept of defending the SB with depo range. This concept appears a little bit higher.
Villain is not making a solid 3 bet OOP but a small one... I will stick with my range.

Originally posted by Afulibador
The range u gave to villain is way more sofisticated man...

What did you expect?

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by Afulibador
The range u gave to villain is way more sofisticated man...

What did you expect?
To adapt to a range that a NL2 player can easily think of. Since u said that they cant even know what depolarized means.

Originally posted by nitrol
Most NL2 players are far from the concept of defending the SB with depo range. This concept appears a little bit higher.
Villain is not making a solid 3 bet OOP but a small one... I will stick with my range.

I think its the more basic one that comes to mind in a begginer.

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by Afulibador
The range u gave to villain is way more sofisticated man...

What did you expect?
To adapt to a range that a NL2 player can easily think of. Since u said that they cant even know what depolarized means.

It is addapted. We have a solid villain here.

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by nitrol
Most NL2 players are far from the concept of defending the SB with depo range. This concept appears a little bit higher.
Villain is not making a solid 3 bet OOP but a small one... I will stick with my range.

I think its the more basic one that comes to mind in a begginer.

I will disagree here. First comes the desire to bluff, starting with value range and bluff range and then comes the conceptof the depolarised range.

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by nitrol
Most NL2 players are far from the concept of defending the SB with depo range. This concept appears a little bit higher.
Villain is not making a solid 3 bet OOP but a small one... I will stick with my range.

I think its the more basic one that comes to mind in a begginer.

I will disagree here. First comes the desire to bluff, starting with value range and bluff range and then comes the conceptof the depolarised range.

What??
First starts with the desire to bluff???
I just started to bluff in 3bets way later.

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by nitrol
Most NL2 players are far from the concept of defending the SB with depo range. This concept appears a little bit higher.
Villain is not making a solid 3 bet OOP but a small one... I will stick with my range.

I think its the more basic one that comes to mind in a begginer.

I will disagree here. First comes the desire to bluff, starting with value range and bluff range and then comes the conceptof the depolarised range.

I really think that at the moment someone starts to note what hands are good, and what hands are not. They start raising the good hands in a depolarized way. Not raising AK and than 65s, but AK and than AQ, or KQ.

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by nitrol
Most NL2 players are far from the concept of defending the SB with depo range. This concept appears a little bit higher.
Villain is not making a solid 3 bet OOP but a small one... I will stick with my range.

I think its the more basic one that comes to mind in a begginer.

I will disagree here. First comes the desire to bluff, starting with value range and bluff range and then comes the conceptof the depolarised range.

What??
First starts with the desire to bluff???
I just started to bluff in 3bets way later.

So? This is what wasvwith me, so Istick with it.

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by nitrol
Most NL2 players are far from the concept of defending the SB with depo range. This concept appears a little bit higher.
Villain is not making a solid 3 bet OOP but a small one... I will stick with my range.

I think its the more basic one that comes to mind in a begginer.

I will disagree here. First comes the desire to bluff, starting with value range and bluff range and then comes the conceptof the depolarised range.

I really think that at the moment someone starts to note what hands are good, and what hands are not. They start raising the good hands in a depolarized way. Not raising AK and than 65s, but AK and than AQ, or KQ.

Nothing like that...

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by nitrol
Most NL2 players are far from the concept of defending the SB with depo range. This concept appears a little bit higher.
Villain is not making a solid 3 bet OOP but a small one... I will stick with my range.

I think its the more basic one that comes to mind in a begginer.

I will disagree here. First comes the desire to bluff, starting with value range and bluff range and then comes the conceptof the depolarised range.

What??
First starts with the desire to bluff???
I just started to bluff in 3bets way later.

So? This is what wasvwith me, so Istick with it.

Ok man, u have the right to think it differently.

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by nitrol
Most NL2 players are far from the concept of defending the SB with depo range. This concept appears a little bit higher.
Villain is not making a solid 3 bet OOP but a small one... I will stick with my range.

I think its the more basic one that comes to mind in a begginer.

I will disagree here. First comes the desire to bluff, starting with value range and bluff range and then comes the conceptof the depolarised range.

I really think that at the moment someone starts to note what hands are good, and what hands are not. They start raising the good hands in a depolarized way. Not raising AK and than 65s, but AK and than AQ, or KQ.

Nothing like that...

So I and many friends of mine are just special guys.