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LuckyManFromLT
Joined: 12.11.2013

UTG one tabler, 4h.
BU 56/40 AF:2,7 25h.

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2845351
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BTN: $36.90
SB: $64.78
Hero (BB): $90.52
UTG: $46.95
MP: $61.43
CO: $130.51

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with A :club: A :heart:
UTG raises to $1.50, 2 folds, BTN calls $1.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6.50, UTG calls $5, BTN calls $5

Flop: ($19.75) 8 :diamond: 6 :spade: K :spade: (3 players)
Hero bets $8.50, UTG raises to $40.45 all in, BTN calls $30.40 all in, Hero ???

Their both fishes, but IMO their ranges are always strong here. I gave them some AK/KQ then 88/66 ,some nut FD and combo draws ( BU should have more of them than UTG). Vs such range I have around 24% and I need 24%, so I think it's more close to a fold, they might be shoving tighter, and don't know anything about how they play, so I lean more towards folding.

1) What do you think?
2) Would you bet bigger OTF?


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

1) I lean more towards folding here too. With two guys all in, at least one likely have u crushed hard.

2) No, its not that drawy board... half pot seems alright.


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Jaissica
Joined: 10.02.2009

Tough spot with two flakes in the pot. UTG can easily have Kx here and BTN looks like that wonderful player we all love who is loose enough to call with nearly any preflop holding that improved - flush draws, gutshot straight draws, 6x, 8x, Kx.

Your flop bet should be based on your premeditated flop line here. Did you intend to bet-fold? If so, bet half pot and remain uncommitted. Are you intending to bet-call? If so, bet closer to the pot ~$16.00.

As played I lean towards a fold, as your flop line set you up to be able to fold. If you had bet larger on the flop I'd call. Personally I would have bet larger on the flop and got all-in given the presence of the 56/40 donkey and the single table unknown - presuming you searched him to find that out and he has not disabled search, which flags him as a donkey as well.


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

I'm leaning towards a call because we don't have the ace of spades. UTG can certainly have a few NFD combos and his only realistic value hands are 88/66. Also, if he's single-tabling with a 92BB stack, he's definitely a fish.

I'm less concerned about BTN; he can have 86s or a set or something but I also think he's likely to throw his chips in with any Kx.

If you did fold, I wouldn't think it was atrocious. I think a call is good, though.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

The fact that we don't have As on our hand makes me lesn towards folding here.
Vs 2 that may have 2p+ and draws... fold.


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duder1n0
Joined: 07.07.2009

Against two fish, I would squeeze much bigger, at least to 9$, or even more.

As played, I don't think I could ever fold flop against two weak players... Their range could be much wider than just TPs, sets and nut/combodraws, as OP says (and even then, it's close). Random flushdraws, straightdraws could also be there, so no way I'm folding this.

But squeeze bigger pre, and/or bet bigger on the flop, and you have a much easier decision.


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

Originally posted by nitrol
The fact that we don't have As on our hand makes me lesn towards folding here.
Vs 2 that may have 2p+ and draws... fold.

They have more draws because we don't have the As. Versus two fish I think they show up with AsJs and KQ or even KJ and KQ often enough for the call to be profitable. If they have 66 and K8s then whatever, we don't win this one.


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