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IP VS PFR: TT BUvCO, Call 4Bet

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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

Hand history didn't save, it's NL25 Zoom Unknown Hidden player fullstack

I think I remember the sizings and board somewhat correctly, this is how it went down using snowie scenario:

VS RAISE

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I marked this hand as mixed strategy vs 2.3-2.5X
I think at NL25 Zoom 3betting it every time should be optimal as on average people's ranges are a bit weaker when they raise small - people do have sizing tells.

Agree here?

VS 4BET

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Right because of the small sizing I think we don't want to jam it in here - really easy for him to play and we have easy odds to flat.
nowie calls pretty much all hands it 3bets besides AA here vs this - not sure if I really want to be flatting hands like 45s here? But I guess given the odds it's okay

I don't really have small 5bet ranges vs these sizes - and when I do 5bet it's for value only with some JJ (AQs) mixed in vs loose players only
FLOP

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This is really suspicious when he checks - I'd assume AQ etc. would bet this flop so I'd bet purely for protection, but I doubt people check fold these boards almost ever (and shouldn't)
And when I do want to bluff with some hand I've got AQ AJ myself + fd hands that I can bet and potentially barrel instead

TURN

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Hmmm instinct since I checked the flop was to peel one here to pick off random stabs
But I follow similar logic as on flop and he made it so big and hit's hard to see people at 25 using this line as a bluff - they'd bet the flop instead right?

So I just chuck it

And actually Snowie would do the same here so I played like it suggests

Do we agree with the play here? How do you react to small 4bets IP?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

It’s weird that there isn’t any feedback about this yet. Not sure I would fold the turn as cash game fish, because I think your still in front most of the time against his range he didn’t Cbet with on the flop.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

its because poker players are lazy and we would like to have the hand history in a more standard format

i guess i play the same? ip vs small 4b its call or min5b mostly


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

No, I believe the site was a bit down in the last 2 days. I couldn't come up this site that much..

As for the hand, we cannot fold the turn as this doesn't change anything in villain's range IMO.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

QQ-JJ will play this way?
I like it as played.


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