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StVatle
Joined: 24.11.2014

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 104.6 BB (VPIP: 43.75, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
SB: 95.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
Hero (BB): 224 BB
UTG: 198 BB (VPIP: 56.25, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 16)
MP: 362.6 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 12)
CO: 232.8 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T♠ T♣

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.4 BB, 2 players) 8♣ 3♥ Q♠
Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: (6.4 BB, 2 players) T♥
Hero bets 4 BB, MP raises to 11 BB, Hero raises to 32.4 BB, MP calls 21.4 BB

River: (71.2 BB, 2 players) 3♣
Hero bets 188.6 BB and is all-in, MP calls 188.6 BB

Hero shows T♠ T♣ (Full House, Tens full of Threes)
(Pre 18%, Flop 2%, Turn 2%)
MP shows Q♣ Q♦ (Full House, Queens full of Threes)
(Pre 82%, Flop 98%, Turn 98%)
MP wins 429.8 BB

Just wondering if I did something wrong here, or is this just a bad beat?


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

I would do the same. I strongly believe that if you fold FH at NL5 your progress will be very slow.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Looks like a standard cooler. His turn play doesn't make sense when he checked the flop. He can trap with 88,33,QQ maybe Q8, he can have some sort of pair+draw. I think QQ is only a small portion of his range here. We are deep so I think you could bet river a bit smaller so he doesn't find the fold button with KK or AA. When he raises you have to call so the outcome would be the same.


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Malendes
Joined: 03.04.2011

You played it fine. Personally I wouldn't shove the river, instead bet/call, but yeah you would have lost the same amount anyway. Just a cooler


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I do not like overbet shoving when deep here... But you can make a normal sized bet, yes.


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MisterSnS
Joined: 09.11.2011

*preparing to start a flamewar with this one*

I'm not a fan of 3betting the turn. It just feels wrong to do so. Someone who checks this flop back and raises this turn has either picked up a flushdraw he thinks he can semi-bluff raise, hit the straight with J9s or simply checked back the absolute nuts. 88 and 33 I see rather cbetting than checking.

For these reasons as well, I'd not go AI on the river but use a rather normal sizing of 2/3 pot. Unless he's a huge donk he'd think twice before calling 88 here (which is the only hand we are betting for value against)


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by MisterSnS
*preparing to start a flamewar with this one*

I'm not a fan of 3betting the turn. It just feels wrong to do so. Someone who checks this flop back and raises this turn has either picked up a flushdraw he thinks he can semi-bluff raise, hit the straight with J9s or simply checked back the absolute nuts. 88 and 33 I see rather cbetting than checking.

For these reasons as well, I'd not go AI on the river but use a rather normal sizing of 2/3 pot. Unless he's a huge donk he'd think twice before calling 88 here (which is the only hand we are betting for value against)

I understand why you don't like 3betting and I think you are kind of tight. But if we do it smaller, only min re-raise, can he fold his draws? I think that would be bood way to charge his draws. I also think that if villain checks QQ otf he will check 88 and 33 also. Agree that river would be only a standard bet. With 100bb stack we would be all-in but as we are deep I don't like the shove.


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