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$4.40 PSKO - Bluff on wet board?

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Malendes
Joined: 03.04.2011

Is it profitable to bluff OTR on this slippery board against two nit boys, expecting them to fold pairs and some small two pairs?

SB: 11/3, 37 hands
BB: 16/8, 37 hands

Poker Stars, $4 Buy-in (150/300 blinds, 40 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 2,257 (7.5 bb)
BB: 11,732 (39.1 bb)
UTG+2: 5,336 (17.8 bb)
MP1: 8,050 (26.8 bb)
MP2: 8,228 (27.4 bb)
MP3: 4,416 (14.7 bb)
CO: 2,601 (8.7 bb)
Hero (BTN): 10,487 (35 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 5 A
5 folds, Hero raises to 630, SB calls 480, BB calls 330

Flop: (2,210) Q K 9 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (2,210) J (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

River: (2,210) 8 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero ...


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mylove190207
Joined: 10.04.2011

I think that is good to give up because this board hits them a lot.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Originally posted by mylove190207
I think that is good to give up because this board hits them a lot.

+1 and if you Cbet you committing yourself against the SB as well.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Malendes
Joined: 03.04.2011

Originally posted by SDK1987

Originally posted by mylove190207
I think that is good to give up because this board hits them a lot.

+1 and if you Cbet you committing yourself against the SB as well.

Cheers,
SDK1987

I meant a delayed CBet on the river. I played this hand on autopilot and bluffed on the river without really thinking it through. I won the hand, but when I went back to the replay, I wasn't to sure if I made the right move. Normally I would probably just check it down, but on the other hand I think we can make Aces (splits), pairs and some small two pairs fold if we bluff river. I am still not in love with my decision, but I just wanted to hear if it could be profitable to bluff boards like this in the long run.


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mylove190207
Joined: 10.04.2011

Originally posted by Malendes

Originally posted by SDK1987

Originally posted by mylove190207
I think that is good to give up because this board hits them a lot.

+1 and if you Cbet you committing yourself against the SB as well.

Cheers,
SDK1987

I meant a delayed CBet on the river. I played this hand on autopilot and bluffed on the river without really thinking it through. I won the hand, but when I went back to the replay, I wasn't to sure if I made the right move. Normally I would probably just check it down, but on the other hand I think we can make Aces (splits), pairs and some small two pairs fold if we bluff river. I am still not in love with my decision, but I just wanted to hear if it could be profitable to bluff boards like this in the long run.

yea you probably just get lucky. On the long run I don't expect that they will fold enough for our bluff to be profitable. I can't be 100% sure, because I should do more study about it but in general you are against 2 opponents and only because of that your bluff is not so good. Besides the fact that it hits opponents (both) range so hard.
You can do more study about it and see how big bet would be necesary to gain enough fold equity for profitable bluff on long run. It is also scery board for them, because they are so tight. So they might fold Qx or even Kx to high enough bet. But rather assume that they will call with Kx hands and look for how big bet should be enough for them to fold Qx and 9x hands as well as other PP that they are calling PF and they don't improve ti sets. A high hands they fold always.

GL at tables!


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Malendes
Joined: 03.04.2011

Yeah, thats what I thought too when I replayed and reviewed the hand. I will study bluffs and sizing... never really been good at it - and in general I doesn't like to bluff that much in the MTTs I play (<$11 MTTs)


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Originally posted by Malendes
Yeah, thats what I thought too when I replayed and reviewed the hand. I will study bluffs and sizing... never really been good at it - and in general I doesn't like to bluff that much in the MTTs I play (<$11 MTTs)

Bluffing is still fine you sell the story right and against 2 players it’s always difficult to bluff than against 1 player.


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