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Facing a check raise with JJ and no overcards on the flop

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diminem99
Joined: 06.04.2015

Hi everyone,

PF, I decide to just call because I think he is stealing very wide and he will fold most of the weaker hands I want to keep in the pot and hopefully extract a cbet from him on the flop.
What do you think about this ? is JJ always a 3bet here?

Then when we face that check raise on the flop, what is our best option here ? Calling because we are IP and can still get away from the hand if he shows too much strength on the turn? Re raising and folding to a shove ?

PokerStars - €0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.62, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 9.38, Hands: 115)
Hero (BB): 91 BB
UTG: 102.4 BB (VPIP: 19.64, PFR: 17.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 56)
CO: 110.6 BB (VPIP: 19.28, PFR: 10.84, 3Bet Preflop: 5.97, Hands: 169)
BTN: 131.8 BB (VPIP: 14.71, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 8.57, Hands: 105)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J♣ J♥

fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 4 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 2 players) 8♥ 9♥ 4♠
SB checks, Hero bets 5 BB, SB raises to 10 BB, Hero ???


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

You should always play with 100bb stack, use auto top-up.
Villain raises 4bb from SB, which looks weird.. Is that his standard size? Looks scary.
I would say that JJ is almost always a 3bet here. By calling you don't get the max value out of him and you let him play with his weaker hands that are more disguised postflop and then you lose a lot of money when he hits :) Also if you just call JJ+ because you don't want him to fold worse hands, what hands do you end up 3betting? You should have value and bluff 3bet range here and JJ is a clear value 3bet against SB.
OTF he could xr draws,sets, higher PPs. I would call here and re-evaluate OTT.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

JJ is a pretty standard 3b for value.
On flop the min raise can be strong hand, draw... you can call and see turn ?


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Call. This puts more pressure on him than you might think in case he is bluffing and turn comes bad for him. A raise is easier to handle on his part. He then still has two outs and pretty good fold equity in a rather big pot if he choses to reraise/shove. (It is also one of my perpetual tirades about not raising with bluff catchers or for information. Sorry)


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