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Calling all-in with monster draw?

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StVatle
Joined: 24.11.2014

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $3.46 (173 bb)
BB: $2.33 (116.5 bb)
UTG: $2.11 (105.5 bb)
MP: $2.65 (132.5 bb)
CO: $2.07 (103.5 bb)
BTN: $1.81 (90.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 6
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.06, CO folds, BTN calls $0.06, Hero calls $0.05, BB folds

Flop: ($0.20) 5 K 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.12, BTN calls $0.12, Hero raises to $0.52, MP raises to $2.59, BTN folds, Hero calls $2.07

Turn: ($5.50) 3 (2 players)
River: ($5.50) A (2 players)

Results:

Spoiler

$5.50 pot ($0.19 rake)
Final Board: 5 K 7 3 A
Hero showed 8 6 and lost (-$2.65 net)
MP showed 7 7 and won $5.31 ($2.66 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-$0.18 net)

Okay, struggling with how to play these monster draws.
Is it okay to go all in and hope for a fold, but not so great to call a shove?
Should I just fold to the shove?


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

We cannot cold call 86s profitably on SB with 1 extra caller on BTN.
As played, a call in this situation would have been better. A commitment decisions would look stronger HU, OTT with such a draw or when you would be initiator and got re-raised, in which you could stick it in IMO.


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I would have just called on the flop. Yeah, you had a very strong draw, but I still would have just called on the flop.


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marsa08
Joined: 30.01.2014

Im happy to get all in on the flop.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Preflop: The 3 players already in makes this a good call.

Flop: This should be one of very few bluffs in our range. The problem is the sizing. In this case, you were put AI. What you want is that your third raise should put him AI. I am still calling and hoping that my outs are good.


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metza
Joined: 28.01.2012

Flop sizing is good, anything smaller vs bet and call is too small. If the guys gonna jam he's gonna jam, you can't size him into a raise/fold like yohan is saying (not like you'd have fold equity anyway if he non-all-in 3bet the flop, so even if you could get him to, it'd still be completely pointless)


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by metza
Flop sizing is good, anything smaller vs bet and call is too small. If the guys gonna jam he's gonna jam, you can't size him into a raise/fold like yohan is saying (not like you'd have fold equity anyway if he non-all-in 3bet the flop, so even if you could get him to, it'd still be completely pointless)

You can bet-raise and achieve this dude.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I like it as played. Wehave odds to call preflop and on flop.


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metza
Joined: 28.01.2012

Originally posted by YohanN7
You can bet-raise and achieve this dude.

Oh ok, I thought you meant using same line as hero because you said "the sizing is the problem".

Are you talking about donking and jamming over a raise? Seems like a decent line in this spot.


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