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NL16 KK in 3bet pot OOP

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Poker Stars, $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $16 (100 bb)
BB: $11.59 (72.4 bb)
Hero (UTG): $22.01 (137.6 bb)
MP: $11.62 (72.6 bb)
CO: $20.89 (130.6 bb)
BTN: $16.67 (104.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to $0.48, MP calls $0.48, CO raises to $2.16, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.68, MP folds

Flop: ($5.04) 3 3 T (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($5.04) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $2.80, CO calls $2.80

River: ($10.64) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, CO calls $6

Results:

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$22.64 pot ($1.02 rake)
Final Board: 3 3 T Q 7
Hero showed K K and lost (-$10.96 net)
CO showed A A and won $21.62 ($10.66 net)

Hi

Preflop I just called because of the position (UTGvCO), I don't think a 4bet would have been a good idea here.
Do you think postflop is good as i played? The betting on the T,R and also the size of them?

Opponent: 24/20/9.4
Fold to 4bet: 100 (5)
Squeeze: 11.1
3bet from CO: 5.6
3bet vs EP: 4.2
Fcbet: 54%
WTSD: 27%

MP was a 35/2 fish


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Well this is not a 3b pot but squeeze. This changed things. I think you should defend your open and 4 b. Look from villain's point - utg opens, fish in the mp calls...nice spot to squeeze and isolate the fish.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Villain can and will squeeze wider than he would normally 3bet. I think we have to 4bet here. As you can see from those stats, villains 3bet vs EP is 4.2% but total squeeze is 11.1%, why not defend? We don't want to end up playing multiway and our hand is strong enough to go all in pre. Postflop is fine as played. Take a note of villains passive line.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Hmm. Villain's play is actually not that bad. But he shouldn't do it without the A♣:.

Yes, reraise preflop.


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kriko92
Joined: 16.11.2010

I like calling preflop. We're slightly deep, 4bet UTG v CO looks very strong and he doesn't seem to be the kind of guy to call 4bets => KK doesn't accomplish much with the 4bet. Also we don't really mind the fish coming along. Postflop I'm quite confident that KK is the best hand after his check behind so I bet twice for value, sizings seem fine.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

We might get heads-up with dead money and A+rag type of hands have to pay for the pleasure to draw at a 3-outer. It is the totally wrong idea to slowplay KK here. It will not win a big pot post-flop unimproved if we call. Yes, an UTG 4-bet looks strong, and guess what? We are strong. There is nothing to gain from hiding this fact. Heads up in position may be different. Again, slowplaying KK MW OOP deep is a bad bad idea.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I like calling preflop. We're slightly deep, 4bet UTG v CO looks very strong and he doesn't seem to be the kind of guy to call 4bets => KK doesn't accomplish much with the 4bet. Also we don't really mind the fish coming along. Postflop I'm quite confident that KK is the best hand after his check behind so I bet twice for value, sizings seem fine.

Our KK does not play well mw. What will you defend here anyway if you are calling with the second best hand preflop?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I agree that we don't want to be playing multiway and if we are going to have a 4bet range, KK is definitely a part of it.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I think hero's mind is frustrated at the actual holding of villain. But we are up vs a range and yeah, sometimes we will face his top.
Here we should defend properly and re-raise.


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