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thesundancekid
Joined: 09.05.2011

world class fold or bad also just to let you know my though process

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/18384941_6C3088C8C0

i had around 75 bb's......yes 45s etc in general is bad oop.. however inan 4 max game or with my stack size i think its ok to flat there to see a flop... its the perfect hand to bust aces/kings with etc the ONLY way i continue if if i flop a staight or flush draw which i did..
I check flop bcoz i was OOP.. see if got any action.... folded back to me i sized my bet fairly small to build up a bit of a pot looking weak before i make a move on the river, i wanted called with any weak ace.. yes i could have bet turn there bit bigger buit IMO that looks super strong and they may have folded right there , i wanted my bet just to look like a probe bet...

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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

First of all I have moved your hand to the tournament hand discussion forum. This way the tournament players find your hand faster and this section is more for cash gamers.

Don’t forget that the button player has only 36bb. So than it’s less easy to play a hand like 65s profitable OOP. As played I would bet at least half pot against 2 players for value on the turn with the straight and I would bet the river for value as well. I don’t see much better hands in both ranges and I expect they would play a set or 2 pair more aggressive on the flop already and then it’s difficult to fold on his min raise on the river for me.

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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I would play for stacks with this one. As SDK said there is not many better hands because they would have taken more aggressive line with those. Villain can raise OTR with any Ax. It would be very difficult for me to fold here.


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mylove190207
Joined: 10.04.2011

Yea I would also bet bigger on turn into 2 opponents. Around 63%. I think that opponent can have some times A4, A7, 44 or 77, but as played he has much more Ax combos that are not full houses. It is little bit tricky because there was bet and raise, but as played I expect them to have more sets with Ax hands then full houses. So I will call and hope that BB fold or just call. If he raise I will call eather, because I will prize myself in and he will still have just sets with Ax hands.

GL at tables!


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wasy8
Joined: 29.01.2009

You don't have the implied odds to call here preflop as effective stacks between you and BTN are too shallow. If he's getting out of line by opening too wide you can make an argument for 3betting, but don't forget you have BB yet to act. If he calls you're out of position vs two opponents and if BB decides to squeeze you have to fold. Your justification of "if he has an overpair I have a good hand to crack it" isn't good enough. First of all, he's opening the button in a 4max game, his range is way, way wider than overpairs. Even if his range was miraculously just overpairs, go look at your actual equity of 54s vs an overpair. It's lower than you think.

Turn bet as others have said, needs to be bigger.

I'm betting river and probably not folding to a raise - if BB raises and BTN jams I might sigh fold.


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