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Smashie
Joined: 21.09.2010

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2892205
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BTN: $5.35 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 8, AF: 1,0, Hands: 128
SB: $3.23 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 1,7, Hands: 43
BB: $5.00 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 19, 3B: 13, AF: 1,0, Hands: 64
UTG: $40.17 - VPIP: 70, PFR: 60, 3B: 0, AF: 1,7, Hands: 10
MP: $7.21 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 8
Hero (CO): $5.00 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 5, AF: 2,6, Hands: 27917

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with K :diamond: K :spade:
UTG raises to $0.15, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.45, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.97) Q :diamond: 3 :club: J :spade: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.70, UTG calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.37) 2 :club: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.40, UTG calls $1.40

River: ($5.17) 8 :diamond: (2 players)
UTG bets $37.62, Hero calls $2.45 all in

Do we ever fold the river?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

In 3bett pots you should cbet somewhere around 1/2 pot. Here your flop sizing is quite big.

Villain's call call donk line looks super strong. Your line looks super strong too. Do you think villain could have bluffs here? Do you think he would go crazy like this with AQ when you look so strong too?

I think villain most likely has JJ,QQ,AA and it might be actually better to fold, even when you get this good price to call. I just don't see weaker hands in villains range. We have only 10 hands so we can't look at his stats. That 8 buy-in stack tells me that he is running very hot.


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elsjorro
Joined: 11.12.2010

Agreed with the above, though when i find myself in this spot i always convince myself to call and they indeed show up with a better hand.

But i most say, this board is quite a bit draw heavy, so i think he would wanna raise his sets here somewhere for some protection so that is a bit confusing.
But prob is we don't have a big load of hands on him. If we know he 3 barrels quite often, this would be a perfect board i guess to call down with KK. He then has some bluffs in his range with missed draws and we get a very nice price calling river.


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Smashie
Joined: 21.09.2010

He showed up with J8 of clubs with a rivered 2pair :f_zZz: so many suckouts on the river


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by Smashie
He showed up with J8 of clubs with a rivered 2pair :f_zZz: so many suckouts on the river

That is ugly.. Take a note that villain opens wide from UTG and calls 3bets wide too.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by la55i
In 3bett pots you should cbet somewhere around 1/2 pot. Here your flop sizing is quite big.

Villain's call call donk line looks super strong. Your line looks super strong too. Do you think villain could have bluffs here? Do you think he would go crazy like this with AQ when you look so strong too?

I think villain most likely has JJ,QQ,AA and it might be actually better to fold, even when you get this good price to call. I just don't see weaker hands in villains range. We have only 10 hands so we can't look at his stats. That 8 buy-in stack tells me that he is running very hot.

Villain will donk push with 2 pair+ for value here. We should fold.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by Smashie
He showed up with J8 of clubs with a rivered 2pair :f_zZz: so many suckouts on the river

Well. It is so. So not call light when villain's line is strong.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

Regardless, i'd fold.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by la55i

Originally posted by Smashie
He showed up with J8 of clubs with a rivered 2pair :f_zZz: so many suckouts on the river

That is ugly.. Take a note that villain opens wide from UTG and calls 3bets wide too.

Yes. But keep this guy under further observation, and don't assume (yet) he is easy prey. That stack of his may mean he is decent postflop, and actually has a liking for money. He played it well postflop here.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Yea I'm not labeling him as fish yet. Sample size is so small he could be just running hot.
But I think that villains turn call was not so good. So he definitely is calling loose both pre and post.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by la55i
Yea I'm not labeling him as fish yet. Sample size is so small he could be just running hot.
But I think that villains turn call was not so good. So he definitely is calling loose both pre and post.

Yes he is. but such players must play loose postflop since others play loosely against him. It is not a mistake.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I guess that is true. His strategy seems to work pretty well...


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by YohanN7

Originally posted by la55i

Originally posted by Smashie
He showed up with J8 of clubs with a rivered 2pair :f_zZz: so many suckouts on the river

That is ugly.. Take a note that villain opens wide from UTG and calls 3bets wide too.

Yes. But keep this guy under further observation, and don't assume (yet) he is easy prey. That stack of his may mean he is decent postflop, and actually has a liking for money. He played it well postflop here.

Well his turn call is out in the wind , you know... :)
But apart from this villain played ok.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I would be interested to see some of his showdowns too.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Yea that would be great. Unfortunately we have no info on his showdowns yet.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

And his line is the value line for micro stakes - xc, xc , donk push.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Yes, yes yes. One SD can count for 200 hands of usual stats. Keep an eye on the dude.


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