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He guys, just ended a session and saved some hands where I didn't really know what to do.
First 2 are about QQ preflop and de third one about AK on a AQ5 non suited flop.

Hand 1: http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/18755623_8F2B93AC31
I had no read on the guy that 4bet shoved on me, so decided to wait for better opportunities. It is NL2 though, so might be a bad fold. What do you guys think?

Hand 2: http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/18756217_DF2AEFC143
Another QQ preflop, but this time I had a small read on the guy due to my hud (52/46/40 on 48 hands) so I decided to call. Although it ended up a good call, I'm not sure it's a +EV call on the longrun as he did shove into 2 limpers and my 3bet.

Hand 3: http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/18756316_770DE83995
AK and hit my Ace on the flop and got re-raised. Kinda put the guy on 55 because he didn't re-raise me on the flop, but didn't know what to do and decided to call him down. Definitely didn't put QQ in his range though. Felt really lost during the hand, how can I avoid this kind of scenario or play it better?

Hope you guys can help me a little out here, I would appreciate it very much!

And for your guys entertainment, the most ridiculous hand of the evening: http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/18756680_5F61DC7206
Guy shoved with 99% of is stack and when I re-raised him all-in he folded.. Thanks :f_drink:


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

First and most important - post each hand in different thread. This way you will get better and detailed analysis.
1. You have to think twice before 3b utg in fr. I would not 3b QQ vs him.
As played, you should call. Why turn QQ into a bluff?
2. You do not have read, you have stats. This is different.
When EP opens, gets called then squeezed and someone goes over the top of that it is a strong move without reads.
You got lucky to see and take a note.
3. You are missing something. The guy raises you on flop. Raise mw is strong. But he min raises so it is ok to call. I do not think you can find to those small bets too.


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Thanks for the advice about posting the hands separately, I'll do that in the future.

1. I understand what you mean about the 3bet, certainly will think a little bit longer about that before doing that. But when he 4bet shoves, what hands am I really beating here? I show him a lot of strength by 3betting him UTG. So I would narrow his range down to AKo/AA/KK as I don't think he would shove me with anything else, can't see him bluffing here. Against half of that range I'm coin flipping and against the other half I'm a massive dog... Or am I completely miss judging his range here?

2. So you think I should fold in this scenario, or because I had this stars (sorry I'm not that used to all the poker terms yet) could make a correct call and catch him bluffing often enough to make this a +EV call?

3. If he re-raised bigger or he bets higher on turn/river you think this should be a clear fold?

Thanks for your advice nitrol, I appreciate the feedback!


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

1. If you are not ready to stack off with QQ here, than you should just call, not 3b with it...
2. Most of the time you will face KK+ here. Even more AA than KK...
But as you can see, there are people that are either crazy or that are exploiting beautifully the situation.
I meant STATS(statistics) , I made a correction. You have statistic for a very small sample, so you cannot build your defence around that. A read is info, that is confirmed by seeing him show hands on showdown.
3. The main is that villain is raising you in a multiway pot. This is stron. You call because of the good price. If he makes bigger bets, at some point you should give up.

P.S.The fun hand was hilarious... :)


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Haha oke, thank you for your tips!


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

As nitrol already said, it would be better to post each hand separately. That way you will most likely get better answers and it is a bit more clear to us reviewing the hands :)

Hand 1.
I think it is better to call QQ vs UTG opener especially at full ring. If you are not comfortable going all-in with this hand, it is better to just call in my opinion.

Hand 2.
Without proper reads and only stats from 50 hands I think this is borderline situation. Calling might not be bad vs a guy who looks loose aggressive. Still you have to remember villains range might be super strong and 50 hands is not enough to make these decisions.

Hand 3.
Villains line is strong OTF but his sizings are so small I think you can call this down.

That last hand is amazing :spit:
... :profit:


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