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KQ second pair in squuez pot

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sergii1984
Joined: 23.04.2011

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $9.90 (99 bb)
BB: $17.39 (173.9 bb)
MP: $15.35 (153.5 bb)
CO: $13.16 (131.6 bb)
BTN: $10.72 (107.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K♥: Q♠:
MP raises to $0.30, CO folds, BTN calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.30, BB folds, MP calls $1, BTN folds

Flop: ($3) K♣: A♣: 3♦: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: ($3) 5♠: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.71, Hero calls $1.71

River: ($6.42) 2♦: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $6.13, Hero folds

Results:

Spoiler

$6.42 pot ($0.29 rake)
Final Board: K♣: A♣: 3♦: 5♠: 2♦:
Hero mucked K♥: Q♠: and lost (-$3.01 net)
MP mucked and won $6.13 ($3.12 net)

MP:
23/14 WTSD 56 AF 2,3
H 66

Postflop:

I have second pair here, villian can has a lot of Ax therafore i decide to play check/call once and giveu up


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Pre ok.
OTF I would bet. Villain has many other hands than Ax too and your range is usually stronger than his.
You played this so weak that it is easy for villain to push you off. I think as played you can fold OTR because villains bet was so big but imo you should have taken more aggressive line in the first place.


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axppp
Joined: 07.07.2009

i would bet OTF to get some information where you hand is, if he has a small A he's probably just gonna call and see the turn/river but if he has a stronger hand he's gonna raise you and then you have to fold.

as played like la55i said you probably have to fold.


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MisterSnS
Joined: 09.11.2011

Squeezing is close, but doable when you think they both fold enough. When they call I simply give up on this board. There are enough Ax in their ranges combined. Even when the guy bets the turn (into two players, in a squeezed pot!) I give up. Of course we fold vs. flushdraws sometimes but that's life. You gotta ask yourself why you are squeezing in the first place. For me it's to take down the pot, not to squeeze for value. Therefore I play in a vacuum and just give up postflop (also with 2nd pair)


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

If we are to put money postflop, we should cbet. This board should hit our value squeeze very good.


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sergii1984
Joined: 23.04.2011

Originally posted by axppp
i would bet OTF to get some information where you hand is, if he has a small A he's probably just gonna call and see the turn/river but if he has a stronger hand he's gonna raise you and then you have to fold.

as played like la55i said you probably have to fold.

ok he call -> What give you this information? You will be play all-in turn for bluffing his "small Aces?"


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Getting info is not the right reason to bet here. We have fold equity and we charge some draws and other weaker hands. If villain raises we have to consider folding but if he calls there is not much info there.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

We bet for a number of reasons but if we face a raise we should fold.
We have FE, equity and we should represent.


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sergii1984
Joined: 23.04.2011

Originally posted by la55i
Getting info is not the right reason to bet here. We have fold equity and we charge some draws and other weaker hands. If villain raises we have to consider folding but if he calls there is not much info there.

exactly


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I think we were bluffing from preflop. So, preflop squeeze is ok only if the opponents fold lot.
Postflop, I would 3barrel allin here if he does not have AK,AA,KK in his preflop 3bet calling range and no clubs hits on turn/river.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I don't agree with 3barrel all-in. Villain won't call us with weaker hands OTT. He might call some flush draws but when those miss our river bet wouldn't get called by worse hands. So we would be hoping that he folds his Ax and turning our showdown value to bluff.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

This is a perfect spot for a squeeze with our hand. But we do not have to push or play for stacks.
Postflop idea to barrel3 streets is not ok. Strong Ax will check us out and won't fold.


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MisterSnS
Joined: 09.11.2011

I saw guys calling down with AQ here. :) With the right reads a 3-barrell isn't bad. But it wouldn't be my personal standard-play. Also, if I assume that players fold a lot preflop, that means their callingrange is rather strong (AK not excluded)


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