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schelleXL
Joined: 05.05.2011

Hello,

Should we decide on the turn in this hand to call till showdown or give up on turn ?

we beat Kx draws and KQ

SB: $4.27 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
BB: $12.67 (VPIP: 15.88, PFR: 12.94, 3Bet Preflop: 4.69, Hands: 171)
UTG: $2.99 (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 42)
UTG+1: $19.39 (VPIP: 23.60, PFR: 15.73, 3Bet Preflop: 3.03, Hands: 89)
MP: $11.76 (VPIP: 16.52, PFR: 14.20, 3Bet Preflop: 4.88, Hands: 345)
MP+1: $10.00 (VPIP: 17.34, PFR: 14.49, 3Bet Preflop: 4.64, Hands: 788)
MP+2: $5.53 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (CO): $10.00
BTN: $17.91 (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 7.78, 3Bet Preflop: 3.03, Hands: 91)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A♣ Q♥

fold, fold, MP raises to $0.30, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.30, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.75, 2 players) T♥ Q♦ J♣
MP bets $0.54, Hero calls $0.54

Turn: ($1.83, 2 players) 2♥
MP bets $1.31, Hero calls $1.31

River: ($4.45, 2 players) 7♦
MP bets $3.18, fold

Spoiler

MP wins $4.25


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by schelleXL
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Should we decide on the turn in this hand to call till showdown or give up on turn ?
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There is never a reason to commit. Why would you?

You must in this game call flop sometimes mostly to see if they fire turn. Turn same thing. Call sometimes to see if they fire river. This is especially true in position.


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schelleXL
Joined: 05.05.2011

Yohan,

isn't it so that we have to figure out if he is drawing on turn or valuebetting ? if he is drawing with a K, then we should call any river except the A. If we believe he is valubetting, we should fold Turn because only K would help us then.

Now I called T and still didn't see showdown even though he could have KQ of Kx
I didn't believe him on turn but did on the river because of the 3rd barrel (which he would always have top make if he had Kx)


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by schelleXL
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isn't it so that we have to figure out if he is drawing on turn or valuebetting ? if he is drawing with a K, then we should call any river except the A. If we believe he is valubetting, we should fold Turn because only K would help us then.
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No, because you can't figure out. If river busts you should be more inclined to call once more. Likewise, if river fills draws you should be less inclined to call. Making these numbers 100% is going to make you easy prey. The opponent should never bluff busted draws and always bet when the draws fill (all regardless of what he is actually holding). Easy game.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Villain looks tight. I doubt you can call 3 streets on this board. I think this hand is played ok.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I will not call every turn but maybe it is ok as played.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

River was a fold for me as well. I was kind of expecting that villain would slow down but I guess he has it.


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