Zoom river decision

Top pair + gutshot should be ok to cbet this board. Plenty of weaker hands and pair + draw hands that would call. Same on the turn and checking behind river for free showdown.

Now you have to call as you underepped your top pair and he could be valuebetting worse ace but i would expect to be loosing fair amount of times here.

Mmm if we cbet flop we should not bet more.

What about cbetting 1/3 flop and turn and checking back river? Villain will usually fold this kind of flop vs normal bet, so with small bets we can get more value vs underpairs. He also probably won't call two streets vs normal bet with a gutshot, so we don't loose value vs those + protection is not that important because probably only J is badish card to see, but not necessarily. If he has two pairs, he will probably raise the flop or turn, so we can fold. I don't expect him to bluff.

Yes, we can bet small OTF. I think I would choose between checking and betting small but I see good reasons to bet small OTF.
As played, I don't think we can call river vs unknown.

River is a fold, as we do not beat any of his Ax.

Betting small OTF and OTT might work. As played it is true that we don't beat villains Ax but he can be betting Kx,Qx, TT etc 2 streets because we check OTF. We really don't represent anything strong. We have to call here sometimes or play this hand differently. If feel like hero played TP too weak.

Thanks.

NP

Originally posted by vengeance77
Thanks.

It was interesting to hear your thoughts on this hand...

My thoughts were to X for value the flop and like that I can go for 2 streets of value:) Besides he's going to fold a ton on this board and I have to balance a bit my checking range as well vs double bluffers and I think that they're even worst Ax possible

We cannot x for value. Do you mean we want to give you and villain a free card during your decision OTF? Or do you see an extra card that may improve your hand as value?

He is just going for a delayed cbet on flop.