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1.1$ NLHE JJ on BTN against a passive fish

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TomClassy
Joined: 06.05.2015

PokerStars - $1+$0.10|150/300 Ante 40 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 49.11 BB (VPIP: 29.73, PFR: 10.81, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 37)
BB: 15.67 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)
UTG: 10 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 5)
UTG+1: 14.91 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
MP: 16.24 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 50)
MP+1: 16.2 BB (VPIP: 5.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
MP+2: 24.79 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
CO: 21.1 BB (VPIP: 59.09, PFR: 11.36, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 44)
Hero (BTN): 45.63 BB

9 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.7 BB) Hero has J♦ J♣

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 3.75 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 2.75 BB

Flop: (10.2 BB, 2 players) K♣ 9♥ 8♦
CO checks, Hero bets 5 BB, CO calls 5 BB

Turn: (20.2 BB, 2 players) T♠
CO checks, Hero checks

River: (20.2 BB, 2 players) 4♦
CO bets 12.22 BB and is all-in, fold

Do we want to cbet here for value and protection more than we check?
I put on somewhat reasonable 26% range with which he may continue at least for one street and it showed that I am 58/42 ahead. If I bet half of the pot then he gets pretty much committed he may also decide to 2bet shove OTF (which is the most nasty case scenario) or OTT but then I don't think does it with worse hands at least OTT. I think if we bet OTF then checking is fine in position against a passive we can always reevalaute our JJ OTR.
Anyway I feel that checking OTF and putting a delayed cbet OTT is better for pot control and saving our equity in the hand. The are some bad cards to come like A,Q 9 or 8 which are about 20% chance but we still have not much to protect with a K OTF


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I don’t think it’s bad to Cbet against a passive player for value on a K high board, but as played you can’t do much as folding on the river. If you check the flop it depends what I would do based what our passive villain on turn would do.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Dominik12345
Joined: 24.12.2014

First of all, I would raise preflop 5-6 BB.
Many limpers will call a 3,75 BB raise with almost everything.
Secondly, why dont we make a second bet on the turn ?
I mean he checks a second time. So I dont think he has hit the K.
With the T on the turn 67 hits a straight.
But he could still have something like 22-66, A9/A8, Q9/Q8, J9/J8.
A bet of half the pot doesnt cost much, but you gain important information.
Its possible he called with 44 and hit his set on the river. Thus the all-in. A bet on the turn would have prevented this from happening.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

If you bet the turn you will set him all-inn and I don’t think he would call with worse.


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