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KQs bubble decision

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angalius
Joined: 10.11.2011

Poker Stars, $3.16 Buy-in (80/160 blinds, 20 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 1,919 (12 bb)
Hero (BB): 3,532 (22.1 bb)
CO: 7,010 (43.8 bb)
BTN: 1,039 (6.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K♠: Q♠:
2 folds, SB raises to 1,899 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results:

Spoiler

400 pot
SB mucked and won 400 (220 net)

20/18/221
against his range Im flipping here, but considering BTN has 6.5bbs I have to assume villain does not push here very wide. On the other hand if he raises Im going allin over his bet just to put pressure on him, so this makes him actually push wider, is this fold too tight? Best case scenario he has QJ or something, but mostly Im either flipping or Im underdog, I feel this hand is better to go all in and make other player make the decision


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Mayb3n0T
Joined: 03.01.2017

Hi, i think its better to fold here, if he pushes like 20% on SB its normally a flip or 60/40%, and if my calculations are right to make a good call here your hand equity has to be around 45% and i dont expect that you have this percentage against many hands that SB pushes here but i'm not sure

Cumps ;)


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I don’t think you need to take a variance line against the SB yet against the 3rd stack. Too bad the chip dynamic is nasty for you with the big stack in position the whole time in the rest of the hands. That makes stealing tough.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Okkernootje
Joined: 02.09.2013

Villain has to be wider than 32% (22+, Ax+, K2s+, K7o+, Q8s+, QTo+, JTs+) to make this a break even/marginal +$EV call.

But it's actually more interesting than that. Stats suggest that villain isn't a bad player. You actually tipped it off yourself

On the other hand if he raises Im going allin over his bet just to put pressure on him, so this makes him actually push wider,

If villain understands bubble dynamic, he would understand that he can't really raise/fold wide, since we will pressure him a lot in that spot. This may polarize his range. If he understands the dynamics, than he would/could (should?) use this in his advantage to profitable induce his monsters. If we give villain an induce range of AK, AA only (and therefore remove it from his range), then suddenly our KQs becomes a huge +$EV call.

So there are basically two questions to be asked:
1) does villain have an induce range? (which makes his shove range weaker)? Or do we expect him to open shove his entire range?
2) do we expect villain to shove somewhat near the GTO range above? Especially the K2s+ and the Q8s+, K7o/K8o hands that give us a lot of the needed equity is the real question imo.

Cool hand. Cooler that I originally thought.


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