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sb vs bb limp behind or raise it up? and take it down on the flop!?

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advancedTN1984
Joined: 29.10.2012

Villain is a tightish fish. He got over 420 hands the following stats:
vpip, pfr, 3bet, 22/11/1

We dont have huge sample but he folds so far 10 out of 14 times on the flop after a c-bet. So he is probably very fit fold poker player. Can we raise any two up and take it down when he didnt connect with the flop?

Because he is probably an unaware fish. We don't give much up on future ev if we do this strategy. Giving up on turn without a big hand. Although our fold equity postflop will be sufficient. Does that make up for the lack of good pair potential or versatibility to flop draws in such a situation?

Also in this case our position is magnificient. No other regs to be aware of and no fish can interfere with our plans. So is it ok in this scenario. What would you guys do in such positions?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $3.26
Hero (BB): $2.40
UTG: $2.07
CO: $2.68
BTN: $1.93

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 7♣ Q♦

fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.01, Hero ?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would most likely check this and keep the pot small with this hand. if he checked the flop you can still bet with your entire range and keep the pot smaller.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

I think Q7o is good enough to raise on the BB vs SB's open limp, especially when he folds alot vs flop cbets (that's typical for open limpers, actually). Probably we can even raise all suited Qx. We can then cbet almost all flops, but we don't have to cbet 100% of the time. We can check back some boards which we totally miss + we think there is not enough fold equity (we can bet OTT if he checks again) and we can check back some strong value hands, with the intention of getting more value by betting/calling/raising the turn.


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HennieP
Joined: 15.05.2008

Just check here and see what the flop looks like. If the flop comes out all scary looking and SB checks it then make a move.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by Alleen86
I think Q7o is good enough to raise on the BB vs SB's open limp, ...

I think Q7o is bad enough to raise on the BB vs SB's open limp. With somewhat better hands (at least somewhat connected) that can make nuts, I want to play postflop in position and just check.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

At nl2 easy check, too many this kind of spots, you wanna have a better hand to raise


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advancedTN1984
Joined: 29.10.2012

Originally posted by Alleen86
I think Q7o is good enough to raise on the BB vs SB's open limp, especially when he folds alot vs flop cbets (that's typical for open limpers, actually). Probably we can even raise all suited Qx. We can then cbet almost all flops, but we don't have to cbet 100% of the time. We can check back some boards which we totally miss + we think there is not enough fold equity (we can bet OTT if he checks again) and we can check back some strong value hands, with the intention of getting more value by betting/calling/raising the turn.

What is the borderline of your range?


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advancedTN1984
Joined: 29.10.2012

Originally posted by Dadramel
At nl2 easy check, too many this kind of spots, you wanna have a better hand to raise

It's common. That's definetely true.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

I think opinions here vary at lot. I would personally mix this strategy by sometimes raise and sometimes call. It highly depends on villain's tendencies. If villain folds often after a raise, I raise with junk hands. If villain hardly folds any, I would not raise hands such as Q7o since you don't raise for value with this hand, even on BB vs SB.


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