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Folding a pair of deuces on the Big Blind?

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joaobrgai
Joined: 19.06.2017

The action starts with the UTG folding, then this guy from UTG+1 shoves 2.x BBs and the UTG+2 calls, the rest of the table folds and the action goes back to me, I was unsure if I had to call it or not, first thing I thought was the Set Value theory. Which basically stands for, if you're dealt with a low pair the only hand you'll probably lead with post flop is a set and also you shouldn't invest more than 10% of your stack pre flop, which in this case would be $680. So I had to call $653, but I wasn't comfortable with a pair of deuces on that position.

In micro tournaments specially close to the bubble people shove any :Ax:, :Kx: and 77+ (suited or unsuited). So when the UTG+1 shoved, the only thing I could think of was this guy has an Ace and the chances for that Ace appear on the flop is more likely than a deuce, plus, his equity increases even more knowing that any 3+ kicker will beat me too.

With the UTG+2 calling the All-in, honestly it made my decision easier, because I didn't want to go post flop with a guy with almost as many chips as I and me holding a pair of deuces. The players equity pre flop was almost the same honestly:

  • Big Blind (me) = 30.84%
  • UTG+1 = 32.75%
  • UTG+2 = 36.41%

I was getting 19% pot odds which makes this call profitable, but still I wasn't sure about it and I decided to fold the hand. They went to the flop and it's 2♠:J♥:2♣:, imagine my face looking at that flop... Personally I think this kind of flop rarely happens specially for a pair of deuces (at least I try to comfort myself by repeating it constantly ).

The turn is a 6♦: and the river is a 8♥: and the UTG+2 wins the pot of $3506 with Ace High. I'm just not sure if I could extract the maximum value possible from that flop, turn and/or river because I don't know if he was aggresive enough to hold post flop with Ace High.

I would like to hear your guys opinions about this hand and also feel free to see it by clicking here.

Thanks,
João Brgai.


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Lazza61
Joined: 23.03.2011

Hey João,

Welcome to PokerStrategy.com :welcome:

You played the hand right in my opinion for all the reasons you listed above. Also you will only flop your set 1 in 7 times (around 14%) so would have to fold flop 6 out of 7 times to a flop shove.

Also I'll move this to our hand discussion board where it should get more responses.

Regards

Laz


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Nasty flop for sure, but when someone is all-inn for 2bb and someone else is already calling it’s likely he will only bet post-flop when he has it and sometimes it’s possible you win the hand without improving. Than is paying 1bb more in a multiway pot not much. That’s why I would call pre-flop. Off course it’s likely you won nothing more in the end when you hit quads like now.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Polezi
Joined: 13.08.2009

I don't believe that you fold this, you had 14% pot odds and you are one of big stacks of table, just call and see a flop, a lot of time will go in check/check and your deuces will be good.


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