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Check Fold river 3bet pot TPTK

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allinjota
Joined: 13.10.2009

Vs reg 24/18 af1.5 wtsd 29/W$SD58 W$SF 44 20khand

Or MP 20 Fold 3bet 47
Fold CB 3bet pot IP 47 / Turn 37 / river 0

I decided to fold because I only have value vs AQ and is Checking behind

Was it a good fold?
$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
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Stacks:
UTG Fiskerkaj ($11.63) 47bb
UTG+1 AlexEliseev7 ($32.94) 132bb
CO gambit297 ($26.57) 106bb
BTN dt7304 ($25.25) 101bb
SB Hero ($25.77) 103bb
BB KaBz777 ($49.27) 197bb

Pre-Flop: (0.35, 6 players) Hero is SB A♠ K♦
1 fold, AlexEliseev7 raises to $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.25, 1 fold, AlexEliseev7 calls $1.75
Flop: A♥ 4♦ 8♠ ($4.75, 2 players)

Hero bets $2.50, AlexEliseev7 calls $2.50

Turn: J♥ ($9.75, 2)
Hero bets $5, AlexEliseev7 calls $5

River: 6♣ ($19.75, 2)

Hero checks, AlexEliseev7 goes all-in $23.19


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

You might even bet bigger on the flop (blind war, oop, he except you to continue on an ace)


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Varune
Joined: 24.04.2009

^ sb Vs mp isn't a blindwar. (BTN)-SB-BB would be.

It's an ugly spot, in later seats it would be an easy tripple barrel to get it in. But you're playing with way tighter ranges here. Your perceived ranges is tighter and so is his.
He seems float happy tho, have you looked at his stab tendencies to perhaps check a street earlier to let him bluff?

The fold OTR seems fine to me. I don't see any player double floating in dry 3bet pots to bluffjam the river on these stakes...


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Check flop.
No draws, we have the backdoor flush and need to protect our checkin range. We don't intend on triple barreling with tpkp so it makes sense.


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Deomedes
Joined: 12.11.2011

There are not many draws on the flop but our range i think is well protected from all our weaker Ax hands. Not many times someone xf these boards on 3bet pots because even he doesn't have the Ace he bets so when we do x we have something more often than not. Of course XC sometimes is ok and can be done but that is not something to point as mistake in my opinion here.

Fto3bet is low and i think in spots like these he can have weaker Ax OTF to call with. I think i would bet abit bigger here. Then I would XC the turn and reavaluate the river. On the turn is when we need to protect our X range more.

As played OTR i think folding and calling is the same but if you do intent to call then it seems like a negative freeroll. Did you consider a small bet (5$ to 7$) ?


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ReyPeon
Joined: 27.12.2009

Do you fold to a raise in that flop? 2x, 2.5x... I have trouble folding this TP hands vs. set minners in 3bet pots.


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Originally posted by Deomedes
There are not many draws on the flop but our range i think is well protected from all our weaker Ax hands. Not many times someone xf these boards on 3bet pots because even he doesn't have the Ace he bets so when we do x we have something more often than not. Of course XC sometimes is ok and can be done but that is not something to point as mistake in my opinion here.

Fto3bet is low and i think in spots like these he can have weaker Ax OTF to call with. I think i would bet abit bigger here. Then I would XC the turn and reavaluate the river. On the turn is when we need to protect our X range more.

So with a hand like QQ KK, you are doing the same? bet out?
I think not.

You have to protect your range in these spots. if you had QQ KK you dont want to bet out here you should be X/C'in. With this hand it is a perfect spot for this for two reasons;
You dont want 3 streets of value from this hand.
It's a safe check.

If you lead every time you have an ace, check every time you have QQ KK you become pretty exploitable. Weather your opponent picks up on this is another question.


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Deomedes
Joined: 12.11.2011

i do not lead every time i have an ace. I think i have plenty weak Ax hands to XC with along with KK and QQ. I protect some of my Flop cbet bluffs when i rep the Ace with something like QsTs by X with AK OTT.
You can re-read my post and ask me anything that i have actually written. I might not have explained myself totally on the first post mate but that is the best i can do.


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allinjota
Joined: 13.10.2009

I agree with decmate.
It could be a good spot to balance my cheking range, because I'm playing with QQ KK JJ in that way-
But how would you play Turn And River?

@deomedes.
Fto3bet is low and i think in spots like these he can have weaker Ax OTF to call with. I think i would bet abit bigger here. Then I would XC the turn and reavaluate the river. On the turn is when we need to protect our X range more.

C/C the turn and fold river? wich river you would call?

@Reypeon, a raise makes no sense there... but we only are ahead to a bluff


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feye7
Joined: 13.08.2014

If you are checking this flop with 1 of your strongest hands u can have u are not bluffing enough.


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Originally posted by allinjota
I agree with decmate.
It could be a good spot to balance my cheking range, because I'm playing with QQ KK JJ in that way-
But how would you play Turn And River?

@deomedes.
Fto3bet is low and i think in spots like these he can have weaker Ax OTF to call with. I think i would bet abit bigger here. Then I would XC the turn and reavaluate the river. On the turn is when we need to protect our X range more.

C/C the turn and fold river? wich river you would call?

@Reypeon, a raise makes no sense there... but we only are ahead to a bluff

Turn/river is a clear bet if he checks, call if he bets. If he triple barrels then it's tough and probably a fold.


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tapatop
Joined: 01.09.2009

This small flop and turn half pot bets are easy to call with weaker aces ,I would bet close to pot OTF and OTT,and if he does not fold his stats wtsd 29 W$SD 58 show clearly a nitty set-miner.so as played fold OTR .Good Luck.


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