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Pocket Jacks facing UTG min-raise and and short stack button all-in shove

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GleDi713
Joined: 19.07.2017

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 17 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (SB): 100.5 BB
BB: 181.5 BB (VPIP: 7.14, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
UTG: 86 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
UTG+1: 56.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
MP+1: 83 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
MP+2: 53.5 BB
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♦ J♠

UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 17 BB and is all-in

Hero ???

I wasn't very worried about the short stacked in that moment cause he looked clearly in tilt to me and would raise with a wide range, but more about facing another all-in raise from the UTG player. I'm not very sure what those small raises mean in these stakes. Is it a big pair trying to get action or just a speculative hand trying to see a cheap flop?


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Etnamagnetron
Joined: 07.07.2017

i'd fold and make a note on utg's 2bb open/call range


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

Id reshove. 2bb from utg signicates a weakness. Also he is short = weak player, he might call u with aq even. Who knows. But most likely he folds and u take 17 bbs.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

We fold here indeed. We cannot call a shove even if it's only 17BB. We make a note of both players.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

May I know why do weneed to fold?


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Hi Mozzek,

Certainly :) IMO JJ are not strong enough to call mw when being in the middle. UTG can limp/minraise and re-shove in which they are super strong and calling a 3-bet with JJ is mostly the limit of what you should pay preflop. When calling 17BB we still have 3 streets to go if UTG calls with 86BB, which will most likely be a shove any time soon and there is a 57% chance there will be a Q, K or A OTF. I do not think we have enough equity to call here preflop.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

Yeah of course calling would be terrible, i agree with that. However, why do u prefer folding over reshoving?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I think this is all-in or fold. And without any info on villains shoving range I might prefer folding. I wouldn't want to risk 100bb to be heads up against a range that we might just be flipping against.

I wasn't very worried about the short stacked in that moment cause he looked clearly in tilt to me and would raise with a wide range

We have seen 0 hands from villain, so how can we know this?


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

Utg is short. He is no reg. He is a weaker player, therefore he might get crazy with... Who knows. Most of the time i expect utg to fold.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Originally posted by Mozzek
Yeah of course calling would be terrible, i agree with that. However, why do u prefer folding over reshoving?

I prefer folding here over re-shoving indeed because I think it's not worth the risk when you are mostly drawing at best.
I can't tell too much about how tilted someone is but without any info I would just go to default play and take the ranges at best to make a decision. Mostly a re-shove is very tight so we can at least safely assume our JJ aren't that great here.


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