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Deep stack QQxx facing 3bet OOP vs regular PLO025

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martijnde666
Joined: 29.02.2008

Do I call 3bets with this kinds of hands (TTxx, JJxx, QQxx & KKxx) OOP to setmine VS regular players (24/15/10)?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $36.44 (145.8 bb)
BB: $44.17 (176.7 bb)
UTG: $34.86 (139.4 bb)
MP: $99.19 (396.8 bb)
CO: $18.84 (75.4 bb)
BTN: $12.62 (50.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2♣ Q♦ J♥ Q♠
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB raises to $2.25, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.50) Q♣ 2♠ T♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $3.23, Hero raises to $14, BB raises to $41.92 and is all-in, Hero calls $20.19 and is all-in

Turn: ($72.88) 4♣ (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($72.88) 4♥ (2 players, 2 are all-in)

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Results: $72.88 pot ($2.00 rake)
Final Board: Q♣ 2♠ T♥ 4♣ 4♥
Hero showed 2♣ Q♦ J♥ Q♠ and won $70.88 ($34.44 net)
BB showed 6♠ A♣ J♣ K♠ and won $0.00 (-$36.44 net)

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Padelbro
Joined: 21.01.2010

No, this is very trashy hand. You need to hit your set to have anything of value, and even then you get either folds or coinflips rather than his stack with overwhelming equity. Like here opponent has 42% with his ace high when you managed to flop top set on rainbow board.

But there is different kind of TT, QQ and KK. Make those sidecards more connected, add a flushdraw or two and you have whole lotta more options to continue.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Yeah. In general I would fold those trashy pairs, but some people don't fold anything while IP. It's also opponent dependable, the more you can win pots without showdown, the more trashier hands you can play. But as in 3bet pots the SPR is usually 3,5-4 there isn't a lot of room to make moves unless the opponent is really bad.

Your QQ is rainbow trash. If it was QQJTds it would be a snap call. As you can see, there are different types of QQxx hands.

If we open 50% from the BTN and are happy to fold all paired rainbow hands, we would be folding just 3% of our range. So if you want some rule of thumbs, fold paired or uncoordinated hands that are rainbow to 3bets.


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martijnde666
Joined: 29.02.2008

Thanks for the great response SeagalSteven and Kyyberi, I will keep this in mind for future spots


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I have moved the hand in out hand discussion board, because it’s fits better. On the mom, better late then never.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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