I played for 3-4 months poker on betclic. I won about 500 euro and withrawed my money. I waited for withdrawal to be approved until one day i was kicked in the midle of the game from poker and when i tryied to sign in i got message that my account was blocked.When i asked what is the problem they said that I have more than one account which I dont. They said that they have more than one account with my surname which is apsurd because there is more than 10 000 people with my surname.Later they added that we have same adres. I explained to them that I am not the only person in my house who plays poker. They send my one sentence from terms and condition where it is stated that they can close account if someone is suspicous to them. They can do it to everyvone who wins money and wants to withdraw it. I said to them maybe that is legal but isnt just.They send my Malta gaming authority where i can complain. They refused my complaint. They said that they have evidence but they could not show it to me and that i need to seek legal advice. Can anyone help me how can i return my money?
Originally posted by Pedja59
They said that they have evidence but they could not show it to me ...
Hi Pedja59,
I sorry to hear about your difficulties. As you can understand, they are unable to tell you the the reasons for their suspicions, since doing so would reveal how true cheaters are caught.
We see this occasionally where innocent behaviour is incorrectly interpreted as suspicious.
Originally posted by Pedja59
...and that i need to seek legal advice. Can anyone help me how can i return my money?
They are correct. No-one at PokerStrategy.com has any power or authority to assist you.
I suggest that you consult a lawyer.
An important note to all others who play in the same house as other players
Be sure that the poker rooms that you play on know which accounts play from that house.
Never play at the same table or in the same tournament as another player with the same address. Even doing this accidentally can get you banned.
Don't try to get around this using a VPN. Once they detect it -- and they will -- you're sunk
Dang -- I had a 4th point, but it evaporated from my brain.
Best of luck,
VS
Thanks a lot. Can you tell me where i can find lawyer for this case ? Is there some online lawyers who works for percentage ?
Hello Pedja59,
Welcome to Pokerstrategy.com ![]()
Sorry to read that you have had a bad time with poker lately. I would recommend that you find a lawyer who lives close to you. I have just had a quick look through the rooms Terms and Conditions. Did you get asked or have supplied documents to Identify yourself as found under section 5, when you first signed up to the room?
Spoiler
5. Identifying yourself
5.1 When you apply for an Account, and at any time while you hold an Account with us, we reserve the right to:
5.1.1 Ask you for proof of your identity, age and origin of funds and, even if your Account has been opened, to block it at our discretion at any time if we are not satisfied with the information with which you have supplied us or in the event that there is delay in supplying the requested information;
5.1.2 Request a photograph of you holding your colour identification document(s) where we have doubts as to the veracity of the account holder’s identity;
5.1.3 Void and return any stakes placed and to prohibit your play until your identity, age and/or origin of funds is verified to our satisfaction.
5.1.4 Terminate your account with immediate effect and to retain all funds on the account in the event that there is reasonable suspicion of fraudulent activity including, but not limited to, provision of fraudulent personal details, forged, altered or stolen identity or financial documents or registration of multiple accounts.
5.2 Betclic Everest will only accept colour copies of identification documents.
5.3 We reserve the right, at our own discretion, to conduct checks against registered details of applicants and players to ensure the accuracy of information provided and we shall be entitled to demand further evidence as to an applicant’s age, capacity to legally contract with us, country of residence or any other information at any time in the future.
Something else I would recommend is to think about if the cost of legal routes are more than the amount you have lost. In this case it would be better not to spend more in trying to recover the loss.
But before you give up I would certainly try formatting a appeal letter with a lawyer pointing out why you believe that you did not cheat and for a review of the case based on the following evidence relating to their arguments along with copies of identification. Have a read of 24. Customer Service and Dispute Resolution found on their site.
I hope that this experience doesn't put you off poker, rather helps you find a good room to continue on your poker journey.
If you need advice regarding a room then check our our Choosing the right Poker Room for you! thread. Just reply by answering the questions in the first post and we'll do our best to find the best room for you in regards to volume, traffic, bonuses, etc.
Pokerstrategy.com have a very active and friendly community here with lots of hugely experienced members who are keen to pass on their thoughts, expertise and experience to fellow members.
You should also take a moment or two to Introduce yourself! to us properly.
Where are you from? In fact, why don't you get yourself added to our Member map. You never know, the nearest PokerStrategist may live right next door. ![]()
What games and limits do you play? We should be able to link you to some strategy and/or videos specific to what you play. ![]()
All in all, I think you will like it here and we all wish you every success and enjoyment in your poker. Look forward to seeing you active within the forums in due course.
I wish you all the best in resolving this issue and in you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask. ![]()
My regards
Matt
Thanks for help. I know that you sugest me to find lawyer near me but do u know some online lawyer company who work in case like this ?
да уж неповезло, непопасть бы самому в такую ситупцию!!!
[Edited by VorpalF2F]
Translation from Google: so it's not lucky to fall into such a situation!
Originally posted by alexeyka116
да уж неповезло, непопасть бы самому в такую ситупцию!!!
Hello alexeyka116,
Welcome to PokerStrategy.com ![]()
Where are you from? In fact, why don't you get yourself added to our Member map. You never know, the nearest PokerStrategist may live right next door. ![]()
You should definitely check out our partner rooms. Im sure you would find one you liked. Also if that room was tracked to us, you would earn StrategyPoints (SPs) for your play.
You would also have the ability to send friend requests and PMs through our community tool as well as opening up more strategy and videos.
If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
Regards
Matt