Flush no Flop ??

Joined: 22.03.2007

17.02.2018, 00:03 0

Hi,
I've folded this hand in the turn with a set of Aces. I assumed that the villain has completed the flush on the flop.
One more piece of information. Before this hand the villain has 2bet stat in the turn of 0 (0/11).
I ask this because if i played this hand one month ago, probably I call it...
Thanks for your opinions.

PokerStars - €0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: €9.04 (VPIP: 23.19, PFR: 14.03, 3Bet Preflop: 3.65, Hands: 3,428)
UTG: €4.90 (VPIP: 42.11, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 3.03, Hands: 77)
MP: €3.01 (VPIP: 48.78, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 3.49, Hands: 1,416)
CO: €5.44 (VPIP: 23.60, PFR: 17.50, 3Bet Preflop: 3.17, Hands: 162)
Hero (BTN): €5.00
SB: €6.62 (VPIP: 30.43, PFR: 21.12, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 164)

SB posts SB €0.02, BB posts BB €0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.07) Hero has A♣ Q♣

UTG calls €0.05, fold, fold, Hero raises to €0.20, SB calls €0.18, fold, fold

Flop: (€0.50, 2 players) A♥ 8♥ 7♥
SB bets €0.25, Hero raises to €0.74, SB calls €0.49

Turn: (€1.98, 2 players) A♦
SB checks, Hero bets €0.94, SB raises to €5.68 and is all-in, fold

SB wins €3.67

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VorpalF2F

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17.02.2018, 04:52 0

I'm such a sucker for these.
My thinking goes:
Well if he had a flush, he would bet/call again expecting me to bet the turn, and ram it home on the river.
When the board pairs on the turn, his flush is suddenly WA/WB and he may just be trying to push you off the pot in case you fill up (or repping a made full house -- and I'd be more worried he had the FH than the flush to be honest)

But flush or full house, you have 10 outs to improve and no implied odds. If he does have A8, A7 or 88 or 77 you have less than 10 outs.

So yeah, if he can bluff with a made flush on a paired board then he deserves it.
Otherwise -- good fold.

All the best,
VS

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Talisker74

Joined: 17.08.2009

Posts: 441

17.02.2018, 08:37 0

You have got trips on turn and not a set

I guess the fold is OK because villain can have here an FH or an flus
10 outs so round about 20% equity
So give villain a reasonable range and put that into equilab

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SDK1987

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Joined: 12.11.2008

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17.02.2018, 09:03 +1

I would most likely just call on the flop with top pair 2nd kicker. No need to blow up the pot here and you are only slight favorite in the hand or far behind. Then you can just call the turn as well if he bet again.

Cheers,
SDK1987

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LacsapR

Joined: 14.07.2011

Posts: 239

17.02.2018, 09:47 0

I ALso think a call OTF would be sufficient here and see what he does OTT. If he goes for a massive bet there then I think a fold would be fine

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nitrol

Joined: 24.07.2010

Posts: 11,244

17.02.2018, 09:54 0

I do not get the purpose of the flop raise. What do you want to do with it?
Just call and see the turn. On turn you cannot fold a set as you can improve...

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vcandeias

Joined: 22.03.2007

Posts: 105

17.02.2018, 10:24 0

Thanks for your advices,

sorry if my English isn't perfect, of course it was not a set, but trips of A.

You maybe right, it was more correct just call OTF.
:f_thumbsup: :f_drink:

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lfcmichael

Joined: 30.10.2016

Posts: 166

17.02.2018, 18:44 0

Originally posted by nitrol
On turn you cannot fold a set as you can improve...

We would be calling 35.5% of the pot and villain is all-in, so there are no implied odds. If we think that villain has the flush, then our 10 outs give us only 21.7% equity: a clear fold. If villain has a full house, which is possible, then we are in even worse shape.

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