Skip to forum
Notifications
Clear all

NL25 6Max Zoom, JJ, pretty sick spot semi-deep...

9 Posts
8 Users
0 Reactions
558 Views
Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 118.4 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 20.83, Hands: 67)
SB: 310.8 BB (VPIP: 28.87, PFR: 24.65, 3Bet Preflop: 12.00, Hands: 146)
BB: 123.6 BB (VPIP: 26.43, PFR: 22.14, 3Bet Preflop: 10.42, Hands: 145)
UTG: 233.96 BB (VPIP: 29.30, PFR: 23.39, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 381)
MP: 382.84 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (CO): 169.08 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J♣ J♠

fold, MP raises to 2.52 BB, Hero calls 2.52 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (6.44 BB, 2 players) 3♥ Q♥ J♦
MP checks, Hero bets 4 BB, MP calls 4 BB

Turn: (14.44 BB, 2 players) 4♦
MP checks, Hero bets 13.08 BB, MP calls 13.08 BB

River: (40.6 BB, 2 players) K♣
MP checks, Hero bets 35 BB, MP raises to 82.84 BB, Hero calls 47.84 BB

It's a pretty sick spot on river. I think he has AT or KK here a lot. Re-shoving on river seems suicidal to me.

What do you think?


Reply
Quote
8 replies
la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Yea that is pretty sick. Somehow I doubt he would have called AT twice if it is not AhTh. If he has KK I think it would be weird he checks the flop. To be honest KJ makes the most sense for me.

But yea without the nuts I wouldn't stack off there. I would just call. Imo well played.


Reply
Quote
Varune
Joined: 24.04.2009

Your sizings seem to be quite exploitable in this hand?
Turn i could understand, you're trying to protect vs fd's and Sd's. But would you use the same sizing with AQ i question myself?

With that being said, what are you expecting value from OTR with this big sizing, besides KQ, which villain didn't cbet himself?

It'll be very 'nitty', but you can fold here. Reasons being: You bet very big yourself, he's less inclined to be bluffing back at you(OOP esp!). AT/T9hh/dd both got there at the river. Third: xc/xc/xr river is a VERY underbluffed line, combine that with the other 2 things and you have a clear fold. Not even including your 100bb++ deep here.


Reply
Quote
Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by Varune
Your sizings seem to be quite exploitable in this hand?
Turn i could understand, you're trying to protect vs fd's and Sd's. But would you use the same sizing with AQ i question myself?

With that being said, what are you expecting value from OTR with this big sizing, besides KQ, which villain didn't cbet himself?

It'll be very 'nitty', but you can fold here. Reasons being: You bet very big yourself, he's less inclined to be bluffing back at you(OOP esp!). AT/T9hh/dd both got there at the river. Third: xc/xc/xr river is a VERY underbluffed line, combine that with the other 2 things and you have a clear fold. Not even including your 100bb++ deep here.

Yeah, I think that the river bet size is mindlessly big... I agree, we should consider folding on river against this action.


Reply
Quote
nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

You should not fold on river...


Reply
Quote
Tonyx86
Joined: 28.03.2018

AT of diamonds does make much sense to me.

But the odds are still fine to find a call, because u cant even exclude AK of diamonds and KJ from his range.


Reply
Quote
MatoStar
Joined: 22.07.2017

I would bet quite small OTR around 50% of the pot or just 1/3 make sense. The reasons are that he has a bunch of busted draws which he can turn into bluff and also many Qx hands which he would call on smaller sizings.


Reply
Quote
Coach
LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

I'd half pot flop, overbet this turn
And go large on the river again
Just to make it consistent with more draws

Not sure what's happening here, when all fd and backdoor fd draws wiff and he only has made hands in his range really after check calling twice I definitely want to go large,let him figure out what he calls with.

Now don't think it matters much, call or really disciplined fold vs the river passive 25 pool could be okay


Reply
Quote
pokerboy198229
Joined: 20.08.2011

The only reason for calling is the fact you underrepresent your hand value pre and he will not expect a lot of sets here.


Reply
Quote