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KTs vs fish 3bet pot

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juhiimi
Joined: 03.03.2009

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $8.88 (177.6 bb) 48/18 H:43 AF:3,3
Hero (BB): $5.12 (102.4 bb)
CO: $5.71 (114.2 bb)
BTN: $5 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T♥: K♥:
2 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $0.25, SB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.50) 5♥: 3♦: J♣: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.30, SB calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.10) K♦: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.60, SB raises to $1.25, Hero calls $0.65

River: ($3.60) 4♠: (2 players)
SB bets $3.65, Hero folds

Results:

Spoiler

$3.60 pot ($0.15 rake)
Final Board: 5♥: 3♦: J♣: K♦: 4♠:
SB mucked and won $3.45 ($1.65 net)
Hero mucked T♥: K♥: and lost (-$1.80 net)

So i punish the limper fish, bet the flop because its dry.
The turn i bet for value and when he raises me i get very good odds (only have to beat him 18% of the time) and becuse im IP i decide to call, and depending on his river action i reevaluate (depends on the card and the bet size).
The river he pot bets, and now i can fold easily.
What do you think? I feel like i played this right.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Yea I think this is just fine. However you might consider making a fold OTT. If villain indeed is a limper fish = he is most likely very passive = when he starts raising he really has something good.


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juhiimi
Joined: 03.03.2009

Yeah, but he can have many draws too, and the small raise sise gives me the odds to call i think against the range.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Sure. But how often you really see a guy who limps to raise as a bluff. And also raising a draw is bluffing, if he is bluffing wouldn't minraising be a bit counter-intuitive?

As a standard move I think calling the minraise with top pair is not that bad. But when you consider who you are playing against it might get bad. But I'll leave it up to you to decide what is the best move here.


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clovenhoofsdoom
Joined: 04.03.2016

la55i is smart and experienced, I would carefully listen to him :f_drink:

I as well would fold on the turn. You have to beat him 18% of the time, but you do not have 18% equity against his 2 pairs and better hands, I assume. His hand could be something like K3, K5, maybe even KJ. I guess his sets he may raise already on the flop, but you never know. Villain had a strong hand, as you can see on the river - the limper-fishes usually play very unbalanced.


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DannyHorsley
Joined: 03.12.2014

Generally speaking, when a player has a large gap between their vpip and pfr, we can assume they are quite passive. Therefore the check-raise OTT I think shows great strength. I agree with @Clovenhooofsdam that he could of had K3, K5 or KJ. I actually think he was more likely to have a set though. A lot of fish (and regs tbh) like to limp and call a raise with pocket pairs and suited connectors.


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

you need more than 18% because you will face a river bet and fold very often, thus you don't get to showdown. being ip helps though


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Agree with lassie.
Also the draws you mention he could have are blocked as you hold a ten.
I think I'd just fold. Vs his x/r range we have little equity to even hit. If you hit a 10 or a K otr and he bombs it your still on the fence about what to do.


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

It's one of these theory vs practice spots. In theory we should call but in practice, should probably fold.


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