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maniac
Joined: 29.03.2006

hi,
nash

I have a bad position at the table because I have to shove always over the fishy cl who doesn't call too wide. He needs to call more than 30% to make this one bad. Idk if he calls looser than this. Can you guess?

Poker Stars, $1.32 Buy-in (80/160 blinds, 20 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): 1,410 (8.8 bb)
BB: 6,708 (41.9 bb)
CO: 2,536 (15.9 bb)
BTN: 2,846 (17.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J♦: 8♠:
3 folds

greets

maniac

same cl but later.nash

Poker Stars, $1.32 Buy-in (80/160 blinds, 20 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): 1,730 (10.8 bb)
BB: 4,352 (27.2 bb)
CO: 3,176 (19.9 bb)
BTN: 4,242 (26.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4♠: J♠:
3 folds

P.S. I think by reviewing them I should shove both. If I don't have loose calling reads I have to get it in. In the game, I thought I don´t have to take marginal spots and folded.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Yeah I would shove both of them as default. If you dont take marginal spots (and these are not super marginal imo) as shortest stack then you take higher chance of dying to blinds. Good reason to not take marginal spots is if you think villains as mid stacks are capable to collide with each other or chip leader lighter than they should. But you want to be careful with this sort of thinking as your main edge in these situations does come from taking those thin spots usually. So by thinking you can avoid taking them you might very well lose edge you had.


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maniac
Joined: 29.03.2006

i agree. These spots are vital. you need to shove the maginal hand if possible. They sum up extrodinary.
If I know he calls to light ok but you need those reads. I think it a mindgame. You have to take these edges even if it feel wierd imo. Do you agree?

greets

maniac


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Yeah I would take most spots I assume even tiny bit +EV as clearly smallest stack as default.


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maniac
Joined: 29.03.2006

Originally posted by ghaleon
Yeah I would take most spots I assume even tiny bit +EV as clearly smallest stack as default.

Thus if set their callingranges in hrc and calculate our best response its incredible how much ev some shoves have. You can even assume worst cases.

greets

maniac


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