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Nutflush vs strange board

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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

This was a hand I played against completely unknown opponents. They were playing really passive and loose on this session.

I misclicked the turn because I had the tables on a pile :deadhappy:
My intention was to raise the villain...

I must add that the villain insta-bets this river when the 3rd king appears.
Do you call /shove this river?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Multi way I would most likely lead the flop with the flush for value. Especialy with some fishy players in the hand you could miss value with checking and the orginal raiser will only cbet with top pair or better on a wet board like this. As played the turn is a easy raise to like 6bb and the river is as played a easy fold. You beat nothing except a bluff and that's not likely multi way.

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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Yea I think flop could be a lead. OTT I would raise but so would you, this was just a miss click.
Now there is a third king OTR. Any K,9,5 or a pocket pair beats you. Villain bets 3x the pot. Why on earth would we shove on top of that? I would probably fold. If we look at how villain played this he really doesn't look like an aggro guy who would pull some bluffs like this. Also at NL2 larger bet sizes tend to be more value heavy.


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

But the check OTF is not that bad, is it? I was not the agressor and with that board it is likely someone is betting IP. I could then call or raise him.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I wouldn't say that checking is a mistake but I slightly might prefer betting small myself here. With this board and 4 way I'm not sure if it is likely that someone is going to bet it. My experience in these spots would say that this flop is more likely to get checked through, just like it was here. If we choose to check, I think I would not raise if villain bets. I think villain would then just fold a lot. Instead I would hope he keeps on barreling all of his bluffs :)


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Willy411
Joined: 24.07.2014

Specially if they are passive. He bets only strong Kx, Adx it depands .. But still have many hands that call your donk.
Vs 1 player the check is okey I think.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Against 1 player I would always check to the raiser, but multi way it depends a lot on the board structure and the players you are dealing with.


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