NL5 Zoom 55 Set on turn

If it's borderline versus a 3bet maybe it's not a raise in the first place. It's hard to really value raise here I think, I'd just call turn.
When he reraises he has nearly only sets, straights (he should have all A4 combos even offsuit) and flushes. AJ and AA won't (ever) reraise here for example. Well except with the Ad, which is pretty much the only type of hand you can hope to beat here.

I believe a good player could shove OTT with the nutflush. It's a good move.
I understand the raise OTT to protect your hand from aces and diamond cards OTR.
But this 3bets on the micros are always so strong... I believe you can't fold this, but perhaps just call and re-evaluate OTR.

It sure is tempting to raise turn but calling is probably best. He has all the sets, Axdd, KJdd, QJdd, J10dd and some other flushes if he bets flop with like 65dd. Hard for him to have too many bluffs here, aside from AA, KK, QQ with a diamond.

The nice thing about this board is that if you boat up with a J, 3 or 2, it's nearly impossible for that to put a 4 flush out there unless he is betting AdJx. You are much less likely to lose action from his middling flushes if you improve since the 4th diamond wont hit and kill your action when you boat up.

If villain does not a fish, what are you thinking when you turn raise and villain re-raise. Maybe set of 3, but probably he made the flush, perhaps three of kind jacks. I prefer just call turn.

Why not folding OTF?
Due to the 2/3 raise OTF i wouldnt put him on a FD. Anyways, yeah when villains go angro, in this limits, usually it means the are super strong.

Originally posted by MLima1984
Why not folding OTF?
Due to the 2/3 raise OTF i wouldnt put him on a FD. Anyways, yeah when villains go angro, in this limits, usually it means the are super strong.

Because we are not fan of overfolding a ton on a simple whim ?
If you think cbetting 2/3 here looks "super strong" you are quite easy to impress

Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY

Originally posted by MLima1984
Why not folding OTF?
Due to the 2/3 raise OTF i wouldnt put him on a FD. Anyways, yeah when villains go angro, in this limits, usually it means the are super strong.

Because we are not fan of overfolding a ton on a simple whim ?
If you think cbetting 2/3 here looks "super strong" you are quite easy to impress

I agree. 55 on a board like that is not that weak. A cbet could mean nothing. Call is perfectly fine. Not to mention you have position, just the most important part of it...
Quick note for the owner: don't post results of the hands if you want to get impartial comments about them. What people do when they enter the post is look for that spoiler button

Flop easy call, especially if you have any info villain lot of steal for SB and lot of cbet the flop and you have got position.

I don't actually mind at all the result in spoilers, I even like it as I'm curious.
Anyway it's not a guessing game that makes the hand analysis interesting or not, we're supposed to think about whole ranges and all, if people are result oriented they'll provide poor comments is all. And I doubt those providing poor comments when they know the hand would suddenly become much more to the point if we were to hide it to them...

i don't think the turn raise is too bad.

of course, it sucks to get 3bet, but that doesn't count all the times that he calls overpair, Jx, pair/A+diamond, worse sets, in which case we PRINT money. of course, he should check a lot of these hands, but then again, he might not. lots of decent players would x/c flop with villain's holding.

the conditions in micros are very good to value raise thin and fold a lot to 3bets - vast majority of people just call too much and don't have a bluff range in this spot (semibluff-3betting against a raise in single raised pot).
if you get 3bet, then just assume that he beats a set and it becomes a matter of pot odds. or you could just ship it, and it's very much like getting it in preflop with AK where you aren't actually very happy, but the dead money makes it better than folding - you might not actually have the pot odds against a tight/good villain, but it's close, so there's always the retard factor.

the question here is if enough of his turn bet/continue range is better than sets (flush/straight) to make calling have a higher expectation than raising (also huge implieds when we fill up).
so, all that said, my answer is "probably" and my reflex is to agree with others and not raise the turn here. but that might well have more to do with having a generally cautious playing style than anything else.

Originally posted by zetozinho

Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY

Originally posted by MLima1984
Why not folding OTF?
Due to the 2/3 raise OTF i wouldnt put him on a FD. Anyways, yeah when villains go angro, in this limits, usually it means the are super strong.

Because we are not fan of overfolding a ton on a simple whim ?
If you think cbetting 2/3 here looks "super strong" you are quite easy to impress

I agree. 55 on a board like that is not that weak. A cbet could mean nothing. Call is perfectly fine. Not to mention you have position, just the most important part of it...
Quick note for the owner: don't post results of the hands if you want to get impartial comments about them. What people do when they enter the post is look for that spoiler button
Not knowing nothing about the villain i would probably fold, but im a wimp ♦

I like having the results on the spoiler thingie ^^