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Bruenorx
Joined: 15.09.2014

Hi,

I have one bluff here which I just think is good but maybe not so good as I thought because I got called with a hand which I would definitely expect he folds. So it is 4.50$ sng slow structure, there is like 4-5 people to paid positions so its not bubble yet, but people play more carefully I would say. I open with AJo from late position and Villain 3-bets me second time in just few hands so I am kind of suspicious he is just trying to steal chips from me and if he wants my chips he have to fight for it this time, not folding again (first time I folded 89s). I don't think its great call but with late position and hand we have I don't think it is super bad.

Flop obviously does not hit us as usual, so I check. He checked back so I think he probably does not have K or draw, he might have Axs or some pairs like 99-QQ and maybe sometimes something like QJ,TJs. Next card is kind of good for us I think. There is another draw, and if he does not have 7 it is great and I might get him away with weaker hands. River would complete straight and flush and I could be theoretically betting king. So I decided just to shav, it is close to paid positions, I cover him and I think my story that I have made flush on river might be believable and I also have J of hearts which is good so it is a bit less likely he made a flush. Well and he calls me you can guess with what... I mean... I just think in his position and way he played the hand he should have fold! So sad. That was so exactly hand I would expect him to fold. Meh. Do you think it was a bad bluff from my side? Would you call 99-QQ?! Thanks for all opinions...

Don't have many hands on him and he could not see me bluffing like this ever before for sure. And also I don't do bluffs like this very often as I think I should do them a bit more often.

PokerStars - 150/300 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): 40.02 BB
BTN: 30.01 BB (VPIP: 17.31, PFR: 9.80, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 52)
SB: 20.43 BB (VPIP: 14.48, PFR: 11.51, 3Bet Preflop: 5.08, Hands: 147)
BB: 27.84 BB (VPIP: 22.56, PFR: 17.56, 3Bet Preflop: 4.44, Hands: 133)
UTG: 23.73 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
UTG+1: 19.52 BB (VPIP: 21.05, PFR: 13.51, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 38)
MP: 18.11 BB (VPIP: 11.67, PFR: 7.56, 3Bet Preflop: 3.77, Hands: 121)
MP+1: 18.1 BB (VPIP: 20.75, PFR: 15.69, 3Bet Preflop: 13.04, Hands: 53)

8 players post ante of 0.08 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.17 BB) Hero has A♦ J♥

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.2 BB, BTN raises to 6.29 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 4.09 BB

Flop: (14.75 BB, 2 players) 8♥ 7♣ K♣
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (14.75 BB, 2 players) 7♥
Hero bets 5.33 BB, BTN calls 5.33 BB

River: (25.42 BB, 2 players) 6♥
Hero bets 28.31 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 18.3 BB and is all-in

Spoiler

Hero shows A♦ J♥ (One Pair, Sevens)
(Pre 45%, Flop 25%, Turn 14%)
BTN shows 9♠ 9♦ (Two Pair, Nines and Sevens)
(Pre 55%, Flop 75%, Turn 86%)
BTN wins 62.01 BB


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I'm not a tourney player so I probably can't give you a good answer, but the thread name was intriguing so I opened this and will try to say something

First thing I would check is that if you really want to be calling a 3bet with AJo out of position with 30bb effective stacks. That doesn't seem good to me. I would fold or 4bet this in the cash games when 100bb deep. I think this hand could get you in trouble. You also have to think about your tournament life. You still have chip lead and have invested just a bit over 2bb. Do you want to start fighting or should you wait for a better spot?

To your question if villain should fold 99 here, I'm not really sure. The turn call from him seems quite standard. OTR it is possible that he should fold but he doesn't have much left and next positions will be the blinds for him so he will be short quickly. His 99 block your straights. You called a 3bet pre so how many strong hands you have on this board? In the end I'm not sure if his call is that bad. Someone else might be able to say something wise to that.

For me the biggest problems seem to be preflop and probably the turn sizing if you want to stab that.


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marcvz
Joined: 03.04.2012

I agree with la55i. 4bet or fold and I would fold AJo most of the time.
If you call, it's a bad hand to turn into a bluff. I try to bring my missed OOP A-high hands to showdown as cheap as possible.
There is not that much you can have here. AK would 4bet. Most overpairs to. And a lot of the suited connectors that have a FD here are blocked by the board itself.
Maybe some Axh combo's.. But a lot of players have A5-A3 in their 4bet-bluff range in this spot.

So I can only say I like his call a lot in this spot. :)


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Pre-flop I would fold for sure against a tight player and if you call you can't continue if he Cbets if you miss the flop and that happens a lot. After the flop I would just check it down. It's always tough to let him fold a decent pair and I expect he would only fold if a 3th :club: would arrive.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Classic spot for light 3bet but this villain really doesn't look like one to do those from 50 hand sample. Don't like calling in general even versus looser opponent so it's more of shove or fold. Versus this guy fold likely better.

As played you have way better hands to bet on turn so just check this and aim for showdown. You don't really have great rivers with this holding. Once in a while you might also win in showdown unimproved. So just check-fold.


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Bruenorx
Joined: 15.09.2014

Thanks a lot for all the comments really make me change my thinking in some ways. I just don't like to get 3-beted all the time and just folding but looks like I just have to be patient and don't lose my chips in stupid pots :). This 4-bet strategy also looks good I should add some weaker bluff hands to my range, I didn't do it at all, just really very rare to some super aggressive players. Also after few days and look back reading through all the comments does not make me feel that great about my bluff... Once again, thanks for all pieces of advice.


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