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(FR) TT - mini check/raise OTT in 3bet pot

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pguest
Joined: 01.04.2009

3 handed table.
No stats or reads, at that moment.

$0.10 NL - Holdem - 3 players

Hero (BTN): 101.5 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 136.9 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 14)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T♣ T♦

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BB raises to 5 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, BB calls 10 BB
Thoughts and questions:

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is it too much to 3bet 99-JJ here? Those midish pairs look strong pre but are so vulnerable to overcards OTF, that my tendency is to 3bet them pre for value...
Or should I call only IP and 3bet them OOP?

Flop: (30.5 BB, 2 players) 3♣ 6♣ 5♠
BB checks, Hero bets 14.5 BB, BB calls 14.5 BB
Thoughts and questions:

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I'm not particulary happy in cbetting this flop. On the other hand, I can't afford to give villain a free card. Because we already were in a 3bet pot, I decided to cbet "only" 1/2 pot.

Turn: (59.5 BB, 2 players) 2♣
BB checks, Hero bets 28.3 BB, BB raises to 56.6 BB, Hero raises to 72 BB and is all-in, BB calls 15.4 BB
Thoughts and questions:

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Is this a clear fold? When playing SH vs a unknown villain, I'm always unsure if a mini check/raise OTT truly means something or if it could be an A or K flush draw or a worst pair.

River: (203.5 BB, 2 players) 2♦

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BB shows 8♣ A♣ (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 32%, Flop 45%, Turn 100%)
BB wins 193.5 BB


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romanista06
Joined: 03.10.2014

As you said, cbet flop was unpleasant, so why do you bet turn and 3bet when FD complete?
Check turn and evaluate river.


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pguest
Joined: 01.04.2009

Originally posted by romanista06
As you said, cbet flop was unpleasant, so why do you bet turn?

Playing the same hand 9-handed/FR, would be probably a check/fold or a bet/fold. I wouldn't even 4-bet that pre.

But I can't give up that easily playing HU or 3-handed.
Lots of even worst rivers, so I was between check/fold almost to any bet, bet/fold or bet/shove.

But no clue about player pool tendencies or what would be the best line for this particular case.


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

Pre flop this is 4bet, not a 3bet. Flop i think maybe fine, but if you cbeted bigger not problem turn i check back 44 beat you, A4 beat you, but the 10 high flush draw maybe enough if come 4th club. As you played i fold when BB raise you.


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pguest
Joined: 01.04.2009

Originally posted by ToddBrunson
Pre flop this is 4bet, not a 3bet.

Noted/fixed.


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semiramiRNMD
Joined: 25.10.2009

PF and OTF is fine. I would check OTT, it's a terrible card, he is either folding now or we are drawing dead, check and reevaluate OTR.


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pguest
Joined: 01.04.2009

Thanks, all!


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