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[PLO2] OESD vs pot size donk in paired board and 3bet pot

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pguest
Joined: 01.04.2009

I have several questions here...

$0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players

CO: 270.5 BB (VPIP: 55.56, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
Hero (BTN): 162 BB
SB: 129 BB (VPIP: 61.31, PFR: 0.73, 3Bet Preflop: 1.18, Hands: 137)
BB: 177.5 BB (VPIP: 85.85, PFR: 28.30, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 106)
UTG: 92.5 BB (VPIP: 60.18, PFR: 21.24, 3Bet Preflop: 2.17, Hands: 113)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♣ 6♦ 5♣ 7♠

UTG raises to 3.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, BB calls 11 BB, UTG calls 8.5 BB

Flop: (36.5 BB, 3 players) 4♦ 8♠ 8♣
BB bets 35.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 35.5 BB

Turn: (107.5 BB, 2 players) 6♥
BB bets 104 BB, Hero raises to 114.5 BB and is all-in, BB calls 10.5 BB

River: (336.5 BB, 2 players) K♦

Spoiler

BB shows 7♥ 8♦ 9♦ T♦ (Three of a Kind, Eights)
(Pre 50%, Flop 77%, Turn 30%)
Hero shows A♣ 6♦ 5♣ 7♠ (Straight, Eight High)
(Pre 50%, Flop 23%, Turn 70%)
Hero wins 325.5 BB

Could I have a 3bet range (specially IP) that goes beyond AAxx and KKxx or high cards in general?
A 3bet range like that is safe for sure, but it makes so predictable postflop...

On that flop, is an OESD good enough to continue? Or because it is only a drawing hand (I don`t have even a pair to continue or another backup draw), it is already a 3bet pot, and villain could easily have trips or fullhouses, should I fold OTF?

OTT, hitting my str8, I guess I`m kind of commited... Otherwise, why would I call that donk OTF?


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

On the flop you have inside wrap, 9 outer.

Don't 3bet that hand versus UTG.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Tricky spot on the flop with 9 outs on the flop with in mind you are drawing dead sometimes as well on his huge donk lead. I would make a tightish fold against him without specific reads on him.

Pre-flop I would keep the pot small against a loose passive looking player based on his pre-flop stats. No need to play a big pot with a hand that could draw well and is tough to let him fold on your 3bet.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

Originally posted by pguest
Could I have a 3bet range (specially IP) that goes beyond AAxx and KKxx or high cards in general?

Originally posted by Kyyberi
Don't 3bet that hand versus UTG.

Originally posted by pguest
On that flop, is an OESD good enough to continue?

You have 9 outs most of the time. He likely has trips at least. He will not have 84xx very often though. With 71bb difference in implieds you can make the call as you have 114bb behind and stack off on turns you hit your straight. The spot is marginal but as you played it the hand is probably +EV.

Originally posted by pguest
OTT, hitting my str8, I guess I`m kind of commited... Otherwise, why would I call that donk OTF?

True, once you call you should not fold anymore.


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