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DasWiesel
Joined: 30.06.2005

1)
PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Limit Hold'em (6 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is CO with K♣, T♦
2 folds, Hero raises, BU calls, 1 folds, BB folds\.

Flop: (5.50 SB) K♠, 8♣, 9♣ (2 players)
Hero bets, BU calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) T♣ (2 players)
Hero bets, BU calls.

River: (5.75 BB) 7♥ (2 players)
Hero bets, BU raises, Hero folds\.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB.

Despite the scary board I did not want to miss a value bet on the river with top two pair.
Can I safely fold here?

Or would check/call have been the better play?

2)
CO [39.7|14.1|1.48|43.2]

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Limit Hold'em (5 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is BB with J♠, J♦
2 folds, CO raises, 1 folds, Hero 3-bets, CO calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) A♣, 6♣, 3♦ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero folds\.

Final Pot: 4.75 BB.

What do you think about this fold? too weak? How would you have played on in this hand?


6 replies

1) ugly turn and river is "..." ^^ check-call this, maybe a busted fd or any straight draw will bluff here
(here the fold is ok)

2) thats BU vs BB.. but i really don't know how to play it


1) i think i valuebet the river and call a raise which he in my opinion makes often enough with a weird two pair or a lone pair of Ks. There are 4 to a straight on the board, but it would be a bd straight with a J and I don't see why someone should have a J here?

2) against a laggy bu as in this example, i think i call him down hoping he is bluffing. I don't think he has a higher pocket than ours and often has us beat after his raise, but oftentimes he will also make this move as a bluff. If a K shows up on turn or river and he keeps betting i would fold it though.


1) he doesnt even beat a two pair ;) J8 for example would be possible for the straight


DasWiesel
Joined: 30.06.2005

1) I certainly would have played check/call with only a pair. But as I have top two pair, i thought there would be a lot of hands I beat, but he would check behind with on the river.
The question is, would he raise with a worse twopair or even less on this dangerous board? I think this is a difficult situation, especially against unknown.

So I think i would be on the safe side, when playing check/call here. Just to get around this difficult situaton^^

2) I think i should at least have seen the Turn, as he might also raise with a weaker hand, for example a flush draw. But how to play when a blank falls on the turn? He could still be semibluffing, but a calldown can be expensive if he has an Ace.
Any more ideas on this hand?


2) as blinzler said .. on a good / blank card calldown. you are often enough ahead
maybe you can check/fold the river if you think thqat he wont bluff bet here

1) omg.. i checked it at least twice and didn't see the 2 pair .... of course bet / call (my answers were based on tpgk ;) )


DasWiesel
Joined: 30.06.2005

hihi :)

ok^^