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|6 max Zoom| Overpair vs Turn raise

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Solidus66
Joined: 02.03.2012

A unknown villain bets a small amount on the flop, call my raise and raise my bet on the turn... What this means? I don't get it! Call or fold? What'd you do, guys? :f_confused:

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 189 BB
Hero (SB): 275.5 BB
BB: 101.5 BB
UTG: 200 BB
MP: 217.5 BB
CO: 382.5 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♠ Q♣

UTG raises to 2 BB, MP calls 2 BB, fold, BTN raises to 10 BB, Hero calls 9.5 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (25 BB, 2 players) 4♥ T♦ 2♥
Hero checks, BTN bets 6 BB, Hero raises to 24 BB, BTN calls 18 BB

Turn: (73 BB, 2 players) 7♠
Hero bets 42.5 BB, BTN raises to 85 BB, Hero???


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janmatheij
Joined: 07.02.2009

when you bet the turn that big i would never ever fold anymore
maybe vilian has a draw or A, 10, he squeezed pre flop so it doesnt have to be that good .
sometimes he wil have trips though .


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

Preflop is debatable. You're very deep and cold calling as some merit, but I don't fancy it from the SB. UTG also has a huge stack and can call most of his range to the 3bet, so you'll play 3-way completely OOP with a huge SPR which is very difficult.

I'd say this is mostly a call-down on favorable runouts, but his flop cbet is so small that check-raising may have some merits. This is a ultra-high variance spot from the moment you decide to check/raise OTF and he gives you action that I'd probably take the passive line by check/calling more often. You are capped and you're so deep.

7 is a total brick, so I think you should continue betting. Effective stack OTT is 155bb and the pot is 73bb so I think overbet shove (around 200%) will be ok, especially without blocking flushdraws.
I don't think you can fold OTT as played, QQ is close to the top of your range (TT apart).
I don't really fancy "call and pray" because you're committed anyway, so 3bet shove is what I'd do as played.

Note: BTN seems to be a decent player because he did 3bet to 5x preflop IP which is a size used when you play deeper.


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yadijavadi
Joined: 31.01.2018

He has you beat mate. I can only guess it’s AA.

You should have pot controlled this. Defo shouldn’t have raised that flop.


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Torcato
Joined: 17.02.2010

Hello,

Pf ok, you can 4bet as well.
Flop I don't like your x/r line that much. What are your intention with it, to stack all the chips ONF? That deep? I'd x/c there.
Turn as played you have to go for it I guess. It is possible to find JJ or a srong draw like K♥:A♥: or Q♥:A♥: but I believe that most of the times you'll find monster hands.


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This deep i think the preflop call is possibly preferable to 4betting.On the flop i think we should call.And as played on the turn we probably have to sigh fold.


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venatici
Joined: 15.03.2010

When you cold-call a 3bet pre to me you are holding TT-QQ, AK. So you need to ask yourself how aware is Villain here? If he's aware then I do not like this preflop play. I'd rather 4bet/fold.

Post flop it's a very easy game for him as you are almost faced up and I never see weaker holdings here.

As played I like x/c more than what you did.


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