3bet pot Turn decision with JJ

KomodoDragonJesus was kind enough to review it on a stream for me and advised calling the turn rather than jamming,and definitely not what i done which was fold the turn.

PFR and 3bet stats would be nice as well, but I would call the turn most of the time as well or villain is tight and is betting only with over pairs.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Originally posted by SDK1987
PFR and 3bet stats would be nice as well, but I would call the turn most of the time as well or villain is tight and is betting only with over pairs.

Cheers,
SDK1987

I don't have use of those stats on GG poker so that's why i never include them.

My typical approach to this type of hands (overpairs vs barrels):
- in terms of GTO it's a call down on favorable runouts. Don't do it unless you know he's good/aggro/maniac
- if he's passive, weak tight etc, just fold to the 2nd barrel. I can count on the fingers of one hand the times I called down and they were bluffing.
btw, 4betting pre is totally ok and I prefer it CO vs SB

hard to know without knowing how often he's 3-betting, he could 3-bet with all pairs say 77+ then bets big on flop for fold equity/protection, your ahead of 99-77, ATs,KTs,JTs, AKs,AQs,AJs losing to AA-QQ,TT and random 3-bet bluffs like A5s,K5s. On the turn he's betting 2/3 pot, we are getting 2.5 to 1. we need 28% Equity versus his range, on the turn we are beating Tx, A-high and over-played middle pairs? Idk I think there's not enough info about villain to give a good answer.Without knowing the villain probably folding it. Why would we jam though? that would cause him to fold out his bluffs and continue with the hands that are beating us like TT,QQ,KK,AA, if hes bluffing let him bluff, if he has AK,AQ type hands he's drawing thin.

Actually think this is a call, if villain is ever bluffing we can call here,I think this is too high up in our range to fold if we are folding this we are folding most of our range besides AA,KK,QQ,TT what do you guys think?

Preflop i would just call, stack off JJ on microlimits is slightly losing or break-even play CO vs SB without reads.

On the turn i think the mindset for this situation should be:
1- Do i beat some value combos opponent can have in his range? Yes - Call; No- Question 2
2- Do opponent have bluffs? Yes - Consider call; No- Fold

Opponent bet really big on the flop for a 3bp, so i think this is kind of a sizing tell that opponent is kind of strong here.

On the turn you beat some combinations that opponent think is nuts like ATs, KTs. And opponent can be barreling Backdoor flushdraws, so i would call turn.

On the river if it was a brick, and i had some info that opponent had like AFQ river 40 or so i would consider calling down. But without info i would fold river river JJ and consider calling QQ if you dont 4bet pre, because you beat JJ and AT.