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PF flat call KJs - TP

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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

The fold OTT seems nitty, doesn't it?

I think villain would usually bet 3/4 with a made hand here, sometimes with a FD.

JJ+, AJ dominate my hand, I only beat FD and QJ.

Is call OTT and fold to a river bet better?

Pacific Poker - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $2.21
SB: $1.42
BB: $0.80
UTG: $3.62
MP: $3.32
CO: $2.14

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has J♦ K♦

fold, MP raises to $0.06, CO calls $0.06, Hero calls $0.06, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.21, 3 players) 4♣ 8♣ J♠
MP bets $0.12, fold, Hero calls $0.12

Turn: ($0.45, 2 players) 5♠
MP bets $0.32, fold,


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pisiattu
Joined: 01.04.2010

There are 2 flush draw on the board, you can't fold top pair here


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Equity requirement due to the pot odds is > 29%.

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation
3,124 trials (Exhaustive)
board: 4♣8♣J♠5♠
KdJd 43.74% (1,239 wins, 255 ties)
JJ+, 44, 88, AJ, 6c5c, 7s6s, 7c6c, 8s7s, 9s8s, Ts9s, Td9d, KJ, QJ, J9, Ts8s, 9s7s, 9c7c, AcQc, AdQd, AsKs, As2s, As3s, As4s, Ac2c, Ac3c, Ac5c 56.26% (1,630 wins, 255 ties)

Required odds seem to be better.

What do I do OTR when opponent bets and if draws bust or respectively if river is clubs or spades?

If opponent checks, I would definitely check behind, I think.


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londonsystem
Joined: 19.11.2008

I think this is a spot that I have trouble, too.
If your read about opp is right, I would fold. Not much invested here.

One thing I'm trying is to 3bet PF with KJs. By 3bet, you could define opp's range better. If 3bet and only MP call, you could raise to opp donk. Now, you're representing AJx or nut flush hand, so he could not call light. If he calls, it is quite strong or good flush draw, probably better range than yours.


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Originally posted by londonsystem
I think this is a spot that I have trouble, too.
If your read about opp is right, I would fold. Not much invested here.

One thing I'm trying is to 3bet PF with KJs. By 3bet, you could define opp's range better. If 3bet and only MP call, you could raise to opp donk. Now, you're representing AJx or nut flush hand, so he could not call light. If he calls, it is quite strong or good flush draw, probably better range than yours.

Yeah that makes sense, too.


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