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HHHuBi
Joined: 12.12.2013


max value or no?


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

OTR perhaps slightly overbet to get called by worse pairs -- even Tx or 6x
Shove isn't likely to get called -- unless somehow opponent thinks it is bluffy

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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would most likely just go for 3 streets of value with 3 around half pot Cbets.
Not sure what's the idea of the over bet on turn and the more than 2,5 times over shove on river.

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Laci24
Joined: 07.10.2009

I though the flop size was range cbet...

I dont have huge problem with turn size. It can be the best.
My standard here is something 2/3 pot.
I have checked some pots yesterday from BERRI SWEET vs. LLinusLLove match on NL20k, and Berry relentlesly used 1,5x overbet in the turn spot where he picked 2 pair and the board was dry. And Berri is the all time biggest winner on stars... :f_rolleyes:

I have 2x overbet stategy vs. small or big fish, and I learned it from one MMAsherdog video, where one extremly good NL5k regular used it with his nuts part of his range.

And the theory behind it, when we move closer to the river we want bet bigger our nuts part of the range, because we will win the average pot size when we bet with absolutly polarized way and the opponent has just bluff catch range...
But the tell the truth I have used this weapen only against weaker opponent and I have seen yesterday from Berry move that he think much better than me. :thinking:
But he think that the opponent give him bluff also to the overbet range.. And when your opponent is too scare, the normal sizes can be better... I think I would like check his WTSD and WonSD

What was your opinion about the opponent river call range vs 2x overbet?


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LeRoux90
Joined: 24.08.2015

Not sure i like those overbets, we kinda never bluff here or if we do it's with totally randoms hands. So either vilain have an easy exploitative fold, or we have spewy bluffs


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

One of the weirdest paradoxes of poker is that if you want to get called with your nutted hands, you need to get caught bluffing a few times.
If you are always showing down the nuts, you will soon get folds even on small river bets.

That's when you start bluffing!


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