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88 open UTG overcards OTF

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mjez1
Joined: 29.06.2015

Hi, when you open like 88 from UTG and the board is made of overcards do you c-bet?
I don't think I beat much but my range should be much stronger then BTN range but I don't know what to do in such a spots.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Hi mjez1,
On this board texture, I definitely would not CBet -- x/f is the correct play.
All 3 cards are higher than your pair,
Made straights are possible with opponent's range -- likely even, as are two pair
Your two -- and only two outs may not necessarily give you the winning hand.

I would most definitely CBet on a flop like K♦:7♠:2♣:

I'm curious to read what the real experts think though...


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

the real question here is how your range interacts with the button's range.
a reasonable button calling range against UTG should include a fair amount of broadways, and you can make pocket pairs fold, but that isn't that much of their range and you hold one yourself. thus, i would not range bet this flop - probably going to use sizes close to what villain used, with a more polarized range.


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mkBISCUIT
Joined: 19.01.2018

yes, not the right board to cbet, as Toma said most his Broadway calling range crushes this flop..


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Casey55
Joined: 19.07.2010

really depends if your comfortable playing your range or your hand. Playing your range I think hero still has range advantage and better hands in his range, the flop can hit decently well for villain so maybe bet a bit larger 2/3 pot since he can have something to call decent amount of time. Because your range is supposed to be strong and you have a range advantage I believe you can bet pretty frequently in this spot. 88 as a hand doesnt really want to bet this flop and get called because our equity would plummet, but when you are talking about range versus range + the fact that we should have a decent range advantage I would bet the flop.


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mjez1
Joined: 29.06.2015

Thank you guys, your thoughts helped :f_thumbsup:

Originally posted by Casey55
really depends if your comfortable playing your range or your hand. Playing your range I think hero still has range advantage and better hands in his range, the flop can hit decently well for villain so maybe bet a bit larger 2/3 pot since he can have something to call decent amount of time. Because your range is supposed to be strong and you have a range advantage I believe you can bet pretty frequently in this spot. 88 as a hand doesnt really want to bet this flop and get called because our equity would plummet, but when you are talking about range versus range + the fact that we should have a decent range advantage I would bet the flop.

well, no, I am not comfortable playing my range in this spot, so you're right, x/f is for me there the best


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