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Fast-Fold River a straight -- how to handle the lead from an OOP player

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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

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Pacific Poker - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $9.90
SB: $14.77
BB: $10.00
Hero (UTG): $10.40
MP: $2.04
CO: $4.94

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A♣:3♣:

Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.50, fold, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.10, 2 players) 6♥:4♥:T♠:
SB checks, Hero checks ??? I really think I should have bet here

Turn: ($1.10, 2 players) 2♥:
SB checks, Hero checks ??? or maybe here

River: ($1.10, 2 players) 5♦:
SB bets $0.72, Hero ??? Please don't say this is a fold. I came close to raising, but I called just to see what he could play this way.


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mkBISCUIT
Joined: 19.01.2018

I think call is fine on river...As for cbet flop I don't mind it, I think it is a good line getting checked to, you have a chance of taking it down and a chance of getting raised, if villain has over pair.

I mostly would be 4 betting pre so it would change the hand a bit, SO with 4 bet if villain just calls I am cbetting flop. being the aggressor and also having range advantages with my 4 bet...

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sandraardnas
Joined: 11.01.2012

You are 4beting A3s for value? And what is good having bad hand but with range advantage against fish?


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nsavov
Joined: 24.09.2010

Flop check back is fine imo, we are not really accomplishing much by betting the flop...

On the Turn though, there are more hands that we can get actual value from - QJ, KQ etc with a heart. Bet small and check back A high seems good. I really love those A high Turn merge bets vs fishes since often the will call worse and sometimes fold better and by taking initiative we have easy time on the river. In this hand I don't see him folding better but then I don't see him having much better also. Plus we did manage to get a gutshot going on.

Fold river.
Just kidding. Again, I don't see what worse hand can he have that will call a raise. Just call is fine.

Mind sharing his expertly played holdings?


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mkBISCUIT
Joined: 19.01.2018

Was waiting for that to come, not betting for value, 4 bet bluff. And now you can say “4bet bluff at NL10?” Troll begin.

Also not a terrible hand, if you get called A3suited has a bunch of playability, it isn’t a good hand if villain goes all in. But that being said 4 bet bluff I am betting 18-21bb- you can’t just have a 4bet of just 2-3% then you become like everyone else and only 4-bet KK,AA….

But hey everyone has an opinion.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

A3s could be a candidate for a 4bet bluff, but on the other hand what kind of villain will min 3bet and fold to a 4bet? Post-flop is pretty standard I think. You can't Cbet when villain is the aggressor :f_rolleyes:

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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by SDK1987
A3s could be a candidate for a 4bet bluff, but on the other hand what kind of villain will min 3bet and fold to a 4bet? Post-flop is pretty standard I think. You can't Cbet when villain is the aggressor :f_rolleyes:

Cheers,
SDK1987

Yeah -- 'cbet' is probably the most misused term in poker. Guilty and fixed.

Originally posted by nsavov
Fold river.
Just kidding. Again, I don't see what worse hand can he have that will call a raise. Just call is fine.

Mind sharing his expertly played holdings?

I was expecting a non-nut flush, or a set.
Instead he shows down: 3♣:7♦: (the suits may be reversed)


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sandraardnas
Joined: 11.01.2012

Was waiting for that to come, not betting for value, 4 bet bluff. And now you can say “4bet bluff at NL10?” Troll begin.

I dont mind 4b for bluff at nl10 versus regulars, but Im not sure if 4b bluffing versus fish who min 3bets us is very good idea.


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nsavov
Joined: 24.09.2010

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Instead he shows down: 3♣:7♦: (the suits may be reversed)


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