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Cbet River with Top Pair/Overpair on missed flush draws

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buergerkneifer
Joined: 15.11.2010

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 111.92 BB
BB: 103.8 BB
Hero (UTG): 105.76 BB
MP: 223.2 BB
CO: 179.96 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♠ A♦

Hero raises to 2 BB, MP calls 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (5.4 BB, 2 players) J♣ 5♣ T♦
Hero bets 2.6 BB, MP calls 2.6 BB

Turn: (10.6 BB, 2 players) 5♦
Hero bets 7.08 BB, MP calls 7.08 BB

River: (24.76 BB, 2 players) Q♥
Hero checks, MP checks

Spoiler

Hero wins 23.36 BB

You could treat my hand just like AJ. Don't worry about the small bet sizing, I know it is not normal but I have my reasons for it here.

This is a very general question and I just figured I actually don't know how to play default here against unknown.
With Top Pair/Overpair, I certainly bet twice on Flop and Turn.
Now the question is: Should I bet again on the river?
Pros: I fake a missed flush draw 3-Barrel, Villain might call with bluffcatcher.
Pros: I make it harder to figure out whether I have a flush or not (then again, this is NL25 so no one really looks at my game consistency)
Pros: I get value from any top pair worse kicker.
Cons: If I get re-raised, it's a though spot. Depending on the size, I'd probably fold. Full House/trips is possible here.
Cons: Worse hands can re-raise to bluff me out of the pot. If I check and they bet, I can just call
Cons: If I don't bet, I give him the chance to bluff/thin value bet me on his own, which I can protiftably call.

So I wonder, what is the more common line for value here?
TBH I'm doing both anyway, because I am paranoid and like the idea of doing more than one thing on the same board. Still, I have to admit that I don't know what is the preferred line here, if you had to chose one.


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FriskyArt
Joined: 27.10.2009

You played the hand well and wouldn't do any different. You could go for value bet OTR, but you certainly don't want to get raised.


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Ihuarraquax
Joined: 13.12.2016

Id go bigger preflop and bet OTR around 30%. There are not many full houses acctually imho because hands what have boat there usually will 3bet you pre. What there are is a lot of two pair na villain side what you beat nicely due to 55. So I bet OTR small and maybe call reasonable raise also. But X/call is fine too I think.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

I think we are very rarely behind on river. Villain can have sets but I would imagine those get fast played a lot on flop? AK would likely 3bet pre and lower straights are rare. 5x not really on villain range. So small bet for value and induce would seem reasonable to me.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I have moved your hand to our hand discussion board. There fits it better.

I would consider to make a thin value bet on the river as well, but it's villain depended.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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4zbuk4RNMD
Joined: 29.12.2009

Something like 1/3 or pot size OTR would be OK. If you get re-raised, then It is fold i guess. But preflop and OTF I am betting higher against unknown.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

I think the hand is played fine. Maybe bet river sometimes, using RNG, and then call a raise using RNG.


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